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Article #122Re: is third transformer hole an earth?
From: ian field
Date: Sat, 08 Nov 2008 16:13
Date: Sat, 08 Nov 2008 16:13
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"Whiskers" <catwheezel@operamail.com> wrote in message news:slrnghbb69.bnl.catwheezel@ID-107770.user.individual.net... > On 2008-11-08, john downie2 <bluestar@mail.invalid> wrote: >> my brother wishes wishes to take an Acer Aspire One mini-notebook to >> japan, >> from London, u.k. . >> >> He already has in his house a lead with a japanese type mains plug on one >> end and the normal type two pin femail type plug (the same as often goes >> into radios, etc) that will go into the computer transformer. >> >> But we see that the Aspire One has an additional *third* hole alongside >> the >> usual two hole plug that goes into the computer transformer. The three >> holes >> forming a triangle shape. >> >> Is it alright to use our existing two hole Japanese type lead and then >> only >> use *two* out of the three pins coming from the aspire transformer, >> please? > > No. If the power 'brick' has three pins, it has been designed to require > three connectors. > >> My guess is that the third hole is only an *earth* connection. although >> this >> might be an additional safety feature, our main concern is whether it >> might >> do any damage to use the two pin only lead? > > "Only" an earth? Sheesh! > >> I have emailed the technical services department and the spares >> department, >> but neither will answer the question, only want to sell me one of their >> three hole leads. Thanks for your advice. > > Assuming that your existing power brick can accomodate Japanese mains > voltage and frequency, you will need an earthed Japanese plug to fit the > Japanese mains socket. Which sounds like what the technical services > department are trying to convince you of. > > I think Japan uses 100V mains at either 50 or 60 Hz depending on location. > > -- > -- ^^^^^^^^^^ > -- Whiskers > -- ~~~~~~~~~~ If the "power brick" is a switch-mode converter (not an iron cored transformer) some types automatically adjust to anywhere between 100 - 240V, check the specification label as this information should be clearly marked. Most PSUs of this type are double insulated and do not require an earth, they only have a 3-pin plug because the regulations in the country of use say that all wall sockets must be 3-pin (there wouldn't be much point in supplying items with a 2-pin plug that didn't fit anything). Carefully examine the mains lead, if its round then it contains 3 wires and must be earthed, if the mains lead is flat so you can tell the outer covering is over a pair of wires side by side then there is obviously no third wire for an earth.
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