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Article #1257Re: Internal Modem Problem - NO DIALTONE (analogue problem?)
From: Mike Tomlinson
Date: Tue, 11 Nov 1997 00:00
Date: Tue, 11 Nov 1997 00:00
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In article <877274797snz@inf-eden.demon.co.uk>, Chris Kennington <News@inf-eden.demon.co.uk> writes > >Mike: Is there a technical reason why one should not use a cable > with both inner and outer pins wired in parallel? Yes, because pin 3 is used in the UK as the ringer. The line is presented to the master socket as 2 wires (called the A wire and the B wire.) This line is presented to pins 2 and 5 of the socket, and these pins are carried in parallel to all slave (extension) sockets. The ringing current is derived from the master socket using a capacitor and presented to pin 3. Thus, from the master socket onward, phone connections in the UK use 3 wires. Using an adapter cable where pins 2 and 5 (the outer pair, used for the line in the UK) were wired in parallel with pins 3 and 4 (the inner pair, used for the line in the US) in the UK would cause the bells in any phones connected to ring nonstop. A pretty good reason for not doing so <grin> Of course, why the UK has to differ in this respect, I don't know. It's my understanding that in pretty much the rest of the world the line is presented as a pair to each socket and the phone derives its ringing current via an internal capacitor, thus avoiding the complexities of British wiring. If you look at many phones nowadays, they usually only use two wires anyway, in the manner I've just described. ISTR from a discussion in uk.telecom that the British 3-wire method arose because of the use of mechanical bells in older telephones, and the 3 wire system prevented the bells in other phones from "tinkling" if one instrument was dialled using pulse dialling (making and breaking the line.) More modern phones use tone dialling, hence the problem doesn't arise. -- Mike Tomlinson Keep the internet tidy - kill a spammer today.
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X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 10c6a1,ff0d73fc84201cca X-Google-Attributes: gid10c6a1,public X-Google-Thread: 1036bc,ff0d73fc84201cca X-Google-Attributes: gid1036bc,public X-Google-Thread: 1131b0,ff0d73fc84201cca X-Google-Attributes: gid1131b0,public From: Mike Tomlinson <jasper@nospam.demon.co.uk> Subject: Re: Internal Modem Problem - NO DIALTONE (analogue problem?) Date: 1997/11/11 Message-ID: <k1CthpAQm9Z0Ew3w@jasper.demon.co.uk> X-Deja-AN: 288475482 Distribution: world References: <876818758snz@longley.demon.co.uk> <qpnpuOA+iPS0EwOV@jasper.demon.co.uk> <877274797snz@inf-eden.demon.co.uk> Organization: The Pub Reply-To: Mike Tomlinson <mdt@earthling.net> Newsgroups: sci.electronics.repair,demon.tech.pc,comp.periphs