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Article #253Re: Two phases to house - loss of neutral
From: kreed
Date: Fri, 27 Nov 2009 07:24
Date: Fri, 27 Nov 2009 07:24
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On Nov 27, 7:46 am, Van Chocstraw <boobooililili...@roadrunner.com> wrote: > Sylvia Else wrote: > > I have to phases of power supply to my house - so three power lines, two > > phases plus neutral. > > > I've on occasion wondered what would happen if we lost the neutral line. > > It seems to me that we'd then have the voltage between the two phases > > across two sets of appliances, one set attached to one phase, and the > > other set attached to the other phase, with the two sets in series as a > > result of their common connection to the neutral wire. Since the two > > sets are unlikely to represent equal loads, the net result would be a > > large overvoltage on one set of appliances. > > > My electrician says it's not an issue, but I can't see why. > > > Any thoughts? > > > Sylvia. > > With the exception of some pump motors, nothing in the house runs on > 220. Even the stove splits 110 to the burners and 110 to the oven. No > neutral and no 110's to anything. Different system, there is no 110 here, only 240v and 415v As for Sylvia, yes you would be charged for the consumption. this situation would work similarly to a 3 phase delta type load The load, even unbalanced as it is, would be a certain VA at 415v - across the 2 phases How the meter responds to power factor of the load in question would be the only thing that may or may not register less KWH than actually used, but this should be to the same degree as the same load in a single phase install. IF this wasn't the case, we would have big problems regarding billing on installs having both single and 3 phase loads on the same meters in 3 phase premises.
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