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Article #330Re: Calling any of the Australian lads on here ...
From: Bob Larter
Date: Thu, 07 May 2009 12:42
Date: Thu, 07 May 2009 12:42
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Arfa Daily wrote:
> Anybody got any experience of an Audio Telex Communications of Sydney P.A.
> amp model AMIS 250 ? I am particularly looking for a copy of the schematics,
> but any help with it from anyone who knows the model, would be appreciated.
> So far I have only been able to find a user manual.
I can't help you, I'm afraid. I've never serviced PA equipment.
You might have better odds asking in aus.electronics, which is a pretty
lively group. I've added them to the newsgroups line.
> As it came to me, the main bridge reccy had one limb s/c, and the wires to
> it looked as though they had got pretty distressed from heat in the past.
> With the reccy replaced, it seemed to come up ok, but had no output. Signal
> is getting up to the front pcb from the rear one, and the signal presence
> detector for channels 1 and 2 is working, as the channels 3,4,5,6 mute relay
> triggers when signal is applied to Ch1 or 2. You can also see the signal at
> the detector opamp. But that's it. There doesn't seem to be any further
> preamp activity at all. There is an 'insert' jack on the rear panel, and
> this should carry preamp output, which it then links back to power amp
> input. There is no preamp out signal at this jack. Nor anything at the 'tape
> out' RCAs on the rear panel.
>
> One further thing. Sometimes when you switch it on, the output stage very
> quickly runs very hot, and the bridge gets very hot, which I guess is the
> problem which led to the demise of the original, and made the wiring look as
> though it has got hot, so when this problem occurs, there's some serious
> current going through the output devices for some reason.
Supersonic oscillation maybe? Have you tried hanging a scope on the
preamp output?
> When it's doing
> this, there are no signs of any instability - in fact still no output of any
> description. I would add that this is a crap lead-free product, and every
> joint on the output board of course *looks* bad.
Ew.
> I have not been able to
> provoke the heating up problem when it is running cool, by any kind of
> disturbance, but with lead-free, in my experience, that doesn't necessarily
> mean that the problem is *not* a bad joint, and that is still my gut feeling
> about it ...
Fair enough, too.
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