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Started by Bob Parker
Wed, 20 Sep 2006 07:40
National TR-5090A TV schematic needed.
Author: Bob Parker
Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2006 07:40
Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2006 07:40
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Hi again, Would anyone have or know where I could get a schematic for this old portable B&W TV which was once sold in Australia? Thanks! Bob
Re: National TR-5090A TV schematic needed.
Author: Humphrey B. Bear
Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2006 11:02
Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2006 11:02
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"Bob Parker" <bobp.deletethis@bluebottle.com> wrote in message news:jur1h2d5bofot1gnfo931a9028vaodqget@4ax.com... > Hi again, > Would anyone have or know where I could get a schematic for this > old portable B&W TV which was once sold in Australia? > Thanks! > > Bob Bob, have you tried Speedy Spares? ... Donkey
Re: National TR-5090A TV schematic needed.
Author: Bob Parker
Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2006 11:22
Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2006 11:22
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On Wed, 20 Sep 2006 21:02:50 +1000, "Humphrey B. Bear" <not@me.com.au> wrote: > >"Bob Parker" <bobp.deletethis@bluebottle.com> wrote in message >news:jur1h2d5bofot1gnfo931a9028vaodqget@4ax.com... >> Hi again, >> Would anyone have or know where I could get a schematic for this >> old portable B&W TV which was once sold in Australia? >> Thanks! >> >> Bob > >Bob, have you tried Speedy Spares? > >... Donkey G'day, No, so far I've only e-mailed High Country Service Data without getting a reply. Thanks for your suggestion - I hadn't thought of Speedy Spares even though I've dealt with them in the past. Bob
Re: National TR-5090A TV schematic needed.
Author: Donkey D...
Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2006 11:34
Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2006 11:34
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"Bob Parker" <bobp.deletethis@bluebottle.com> wrote in message news:a192h2dflra6d0t1h4nkklci0kfhgf52k0@4ax.com... > >Bob, have you tried Speedy Spares? > > > >... Donkey > > G'day, > No, so far I've only e-mailed High Country Service Data without > getting a reply. > Thanks for your suggestion - I hadn't thought of Speedy Spares even > though I've dealt with them in the past. > > Bob > No worries - they're pretty good for schematics for most of the major brands/models. I haven't been in the repair industry for a few years, but their email address used to be: sales@speedyspares.com ... Donkey
Re: National TR-5090A TV schematic needed.
Author: Phil Allison
Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2006 11:37
Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2006 11:37
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"Humphrey B. Bear" > > Bob, have you tried Speedy Spares? > ** Not even the famous Speedy Gonzales is gonna help him with a 30 year old B&W TV schem. ........ Phil
Re: National TR-5090A TV schematic needed.
Author: Donkey D...
Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2006 11:43
Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2006 11:43
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"Phil Allison" <philallison@tpg.com.au> wrote in message news:4ncngdF9nhutU1@individual.net... > > "Humphrey B. Bear" > > Bob, have you tried Speedy Spares? > > > ** Not even the famous Speedy Gonzales is gonna help him with a 30 year old > B&W TV schem. > ........ Phil > You're probably right, Phil, it is getting a bit long in the tooth, but you never know.
Re: National TR-5090A TV schematic needed.
Author: Phil Allison
Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2006 11:48
Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2006 11:48
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"Donkey D..." > >> ** Not even the famous Speedy Gonzales is gonna help him with a 30 year > old B&W TV schem. > > > You're probably right, Phil, it is getting a bit long in the tooth, but > you > never know. ** Well, I have a schem and PCB layout for a " H.M.V. 1184 " 12 in. B&W portable, right in front of me. Cos I actually own one - and it is a goer. Care to carbon date it, anyone ? ..... Phil
Re: National TR-5090A TV schematic needed.
Author: Donkey D...
Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2006 11:51
Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2006 11:51
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"Phil Allison" <philallison@tpg.com.au> wrote in message news:4nco48F9sfb1U1@individual.net... > > "Donkey D..." > > >> ** Not even the famous Speedy Gonzales is gonna help him with a 30 year > > old B&W TV schem. > > > > You're probably right, Phil, it is getting a bit long in the tooth, but > > you > > never know. > > ** Well, I have a schem and PCB layout for a " H.M.V. 1184 " 12 in. B&W > portable, right in front of me. > > Cos I actually own one - and it is a goer. > > Care to carbon date it, anyone ? > ..... Phil > And it's not in a museum???
Re: National TR-5090A TV schematic needed.
Author: Donkey D...
Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2006 12:01
Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2006 12:01
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"Bob Parker" <bobp.deletethis@bluebottle.com> wrote in message news:a192h2dflra6d0t1h4nkklci0kfhgf52k0@4ax.com... > On Wed, 20 Sep 2006 21:02:50 +1000, "Humphrey B. Bear" <not@me.com.au> > wrote: > > > > >"Bob Parker" <bobp.deletethis@bluebottle.com> wrote in message > >news:jur1h2d5bofot1gnfo931a9028vaodqget@4ax.com... > >> Hi again, > >> Would anyone have or know where I could get a schematic for this > >> old portable B&W TV which was once sold in Australia? > >> Thanks! > >> > >> Bob > > > >Bob, have you tried Speedy Spares? > > > >... Donkey > > G'day, > No, so far I've only e-mailed High Country Service Data without > getting a reply. > Thanks for your suggestion - I hadn't thought of Speedy Spares even > though I've dealt with them in the past. > > Bob > You'll probably still get a reply from HCSD - he's usually pretty good. ... Donkey
Re: National TR-5090A TV schematic needed.
Author: John Ely
Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2006 13:58
Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2006 13:58
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"Bob Parker" <bobp.deletethis@bluebottle.com> wrote in message
news:jur1h2d5bofot1gnfo931a9028vaodqget@4ax.com...
> Hi again,
> Would anyone have or know where I could get a schematic for this
> old portable B&W TV which was once sold in Australia?
> Thanks!
>
> Bob
Hi,
You could try Television Replacements in Doncaster 0398504144 they have
lots of circuits for older sets,and they used to be the Panasonic agents.
John Ely.
Re: National TR-5090A TV schematic needed.
Author: TT
Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2006 05:29
Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2006 05:29
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"Donkey D..." <NoSpam@ForMe.com> wrote in message news:45112b47$0$22361$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au... : "Phil Allison" <philallison@tpg.com.au> wrote in message : news:4nco48F9sfb1U1@individual.net... : > : > "Donkey D..." : > : > >> ** Not even the famous Speedy Gonzales is gonna help him with a 30 : year : > > old B&W TV schem. : > > : > > You're probably right, Phil, it is getting a bit long in the tooth, but : > > you : > > never know. : > : > ** Well, I have a schem and PCB layout for a " H.M.V. 1184 " 12 in. : B&W : > portable, right in front of me. : > : > Cos I actually own one - and it is a goer. : > : > Care to carbon date it, anyone ? : > ..... Phil : > : And it's not in a museum??? : Don't you know Phil here is into "Verge Side Electronics"? Anything electronic left out in the street in Summerhill gets spirited away at night. BTW ask Phil how old his CD player is? Regards TT
Re: National TR-5090A TV schematic needed.
Author: Bob Parker
Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2006 06:04
Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2006 06:04
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On Thu, 21 Sep 2006 13:29:00 +0800, "TT" <TTencerNOmorespam@westnet.com.au> wrote: > >: >Don't you know Phil here is into "Verge Side Electronics"? >Anything electronic left out in the street in Summerhill >gets spirited away at night. BTW ask Phil how old his CD >player is? > >Regards TT Thanks to everyone who replied - appreciate it. BTW, I've got a Sony CDP101 too. :-) Cheers Bob
Re: National TR-5090A TV schematic needed.
Author: Phil Allison
Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2006 06:11
Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2006 06:11
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"Bob Parker" > > Thanks to everyone who replied - appreciate it. > > BTW, I've got a Sony CDP101 too. :-) ** Is it still performing to good as new like mine ? ....... Phil
Re: National TR-5090A TV schematic needed.
Author: Bob Parker
Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2006 08:33
Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2006 08:33
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On Thu, 21 Sep 2006 16:11:38 +1000, "Phil Allison" <philallison@tpg.com.au> wrote: > >"Bob Parker" > >> >> Thanks to everyone who replied - appreciate it. >> >> BTW, I've got a Sony CDP101 too. :-) > > > >** Is it still performing to good as new like mine ? > >....... Phil Unfortunately it has the symptoms of a dying laser... skipping and trouble finding tracks. It was great before that happened though. Bob
Re: National TR-5090A TV schematic needed.
Author: Phil Allison
Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2006 08:39
Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2006 08:39
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"Bob Parker" > > > Unfortunately it has the symptoms of a dying laser... skipping and > trouble finding tracks. It was great before that happened though. ** Is the disk draw moving sluggishly ? If so, the nylon gear lubricant has gone sticky. WD sprayed into the affected areas does wonders. Might fix all the symptoms. ...... Phil
Re: National TR-5090A TV schematic needed.
Author: Little Steve
Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2006 08:59
Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2006 08:59
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"Phil Allison" <philallison@tpg.com.au> wrote in message news:4nf1e0Fa41c3U1@individual.net... > > "Bob Parker" > > > > Unfortunately it has the symptoms of a dying laser... skipping and > > trouble finding tracks. It was great before that happened though. > > ** Is the disk draw moving sluggishly ? > If so, the nylon gear lubricant has gone sticky. > WD sprayed into the affected areas does wonders. > Might fix all the symptoms. > ...... Phil > I doubt that the disk drawer is the cause of this problem, more likely it's either the laser diode going down or a problem with the sled. (I'm assuming that you've cleaned the lens.) Either too much wear, or bad lubrication. The first is hard to fix, unless there's a power adjustment trimpot in the circuit, but if it's only a lack of or sticky lubricant on the sled rails, re-lubricating could fix it. In the case of Sony Playstations, when the sled rails are worn, turning the unit upside-down often helps. (No good in this case) ... Steve
Re: National TR-5090A TV schematic needed.
Author: Clifford Heath
Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2006 09:04
Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2006 09:04
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Bob Parker wrote: > BTW, I've got a Sony CDP101 too. :-) How old is that? I've got a Sony D-22 (walkman-size) that I bought ex-warrantee repair in about 1989 IIRC, and it's still going strong. Makes an awful noise if you accidentally try to play a data or MP3 CD, but still... Clifford Heath.
Re: National TR-5090A TV schematic needed.
Author: Bob Parker
Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2006 09:54
Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2006 09:54
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On Thu, 21 Sep 2006 18:39:25 +1000, "Phil Allison" <philallison@tpg.com.au> wrote: >** Is the disk draw moving sluggishly ? > >If so, the nylon gear lubricant has gone sticky. > >WD sprayed into the affected areas does wonders. > >Might fix all the symptoms. > > > >...... Phil I haven't powerd it up for a long time. No, I haven't tried re-lubricating the sled rails. If I ever get time, I might give that a try. I was assuming it to be an electronic problem, and we all know that technicians should never assume anything. :-) Bob
Re: National TR-5090A TV schematic needed.
Author: Bob Parker
Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2006 09:59
Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2006 09:59
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On Thu, 21 Sep 2006 19:04:15 +1000, Clifford Heath <no@spam.please.net> wrote: >Bob Parker wrote: >> BTW, I've got a Sony CDP101 too. :-) > >How old is that? I bought it in 1984, back when domestic electronics was built for a long service life way past the warranty period. :-) Bob >I've got a Sony D-22 (walkman-size) that I bought ex-warrantee >repair in about 1989 IIRC, and it's still going strong. Makes >an awful noise if you accidentally try to play a data or MP3 CD, >but still...
Re: National TR-5090A TV schematic needed.
Author: Phil Allison
Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2006 10:41
Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2006 10:41
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"Little Steve" >> ** Is the disk draw moving sluggishly ? >> If so, the nylon gear lubricant has gone sticky. >> WD sprayed into the affected areas does wonders. >> Might fix all the symptoms. > > > I doubt that the disk drawer is the cause of this problem, ** As do I - kindly read what I wrote to Bob. > more likely it's > either the laser diode going down or a problem with the sled. ** The " sled " uses the same sticky grease. Must be 20 gear wheels and other bits involved. > Either too much wear, or bad lubrication. ** Bad grease is my hunch. Seeing as 100 % of CDP 101s have that exact issue. Shame you have no clue. ......... Phil
Re: National TR-5090A TV schematic needed.
Author: Michael A. Terrell
Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2006 10:43
Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2006 10:43
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Bob Parker wrote: > > I haven't powerd it up for a long time. No, I haven't tried > re-lubricating the sled rails. If I ever get time, I might give that a > try. I was assuming it to be an electronic problem, and we all know > that technicians should never assume anything. :-) > > Bob Maybe you should dig up one of those newfangled ESR meters and check it out! ;-) -- Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to prove it. Member of DAV #85. Michael A. Terrell Central Florida
Re: National TR-5090A TV schematic needed.
Author: Phil Allison
Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2006 10:47
Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2006 10:47
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"Bob Parker" >>> BTW, I've got a Sony CDP101 too. :-) >> >>How old is that? > > I bought it in 1984, back when domestic electronics was built for a > long service life way past the warranty period. :-) ** Bought mine on May 4, 1983 - after earlier placing a $100 deposit on March 22 at Sydney Hi-Fi Centre in York Street Sydney. S/N 300 346 ....... Phil
Re: National TR-5090A TV schematic needed.
Author: Little Steve
Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2006 10:54
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"Phil Allison" <philallison@tpg.com.au> wrote in message news:4nf8igFa3nkgU1@individual.net... > > Shame you have no clue. > ......... Phil > Phil, you just can't help yourself, can you? What did I say to upset you, and when will you grow up? Or maybe you're right, I have no clue and am just making things up. I know that you're not too bad with electronics - it's a shame that your social skills aren't up to the same level. ... Steve
Re: National TR-5090A TV schematic needed.
Author: Phil Allison
Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2006 11:00
Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2006 11:00
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"Little Shit" ** Needs an enema - badly. ....... Phil
Re: National TR-5090A TV schematic needed.
Author: Little Steve
Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2006 11:15
Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2006 11:15
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"Phil Allison" <philallison@tpg.com.au> wrote in message news:4nf9n1F9mi0nU1@individual.net... > > "Little Shit" > > ** Needs an enema - badly. > > ....... Phil > Phil, I feel very sorry for you. You really are a sad case. I couldn't be bothered wasting any more time on you. I hope for your sake that you eventually sort out your problems. (My advice is that you seek help, since obviously you haven't already done so. You're sick.) I didn't say anything offensive about you, so what's the problem? I was only trying to help Bob. Anyway, you've about done it for me, as far as these electronics newsgroups go - I won't be back. ... Steve
Re: National TR-5090A TV schematic needed.
Author: Phil Allison
Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2006 11:22
Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2006 11:22
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"Little Shit" ** Big splat ........ ....... Phil
Re: National TR-5090A TV schematic needed.
Author: TT
Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2006 12:08
Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2006 12:08
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"Phil Allison" <philallison@tpg.com.au> wrote in message news:4nfavtFa3ungU1@individual.net... > > "Little Shit" > > > ** Big splat ........ > > > > > > ....... Philthy the Troll Another notch on your holster :-( Proud of yourself? Feeling smug and superior again? TT > >
Re: National TR-5090A TV schematic needed.
Author: Alan Rutlidge
Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2006 05:06
Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2006 05:06
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"TT" <TTenceNOSPAM@westnet.com.au> wrote in message news:451280c8$1@quokka.wn.com.au... > > "Phil Allison" <philallison@tpg.com.au> wrote in message > news:4nfavtFa3ungU1@individual.net... >> >> "Little Shit" >> >> >> ** Big splat ........ >> >> >> >> >> >> ....... Philthy the Troll > > > Another notch on your holster :-( Proud of yourself? Feeling smug and > superior again? > > TT >> >> There's nothing superior about Phil. He just thinks he's a legend in his own lunchtime. LOL Here's something that Philthy would appreciate - What's the difference between Philthy's arsehole and a KitKat? . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . You only get four fingers in a KitKat. :P
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