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Article #14455Re: Rechargeable lithium batteries?
From: George Goble
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 18:49
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 18:49
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In article <1992Dec10.171157.28145@epas.toronto.edu> akrajn@epas.utoronto.ca (Anita Krajnc) writes: >> I have been hearing a lot about rechargeable lithium batteries these days. >> Supposedly, they are about to replace alkaline batteries for consumer >> applications. I read an article about Gates Millenium cells possibly >> replacing alkalines (and this was quite a while ago), but there must be some >> sort of problem, since the alkalines are quite popular. >> Who makes these lithium cells? Are they possible candidates for use in >> electric vehicles? Thanks in advance. Eric > >Although litium batteries are widely used, rechargeable lithium >batteries have not. This is unfortunately since lithium rechargeable >can store approximately 10X the capacity than Ni-Cads, the same size >and voltage. The reason why everybody is not using them is due to the >fact that lithium batteries easily explode when they are inproperly >recharged. It would be considered quite dangerous to attempt to >recharge a large Li battery, especially one used to power a vehicle. >I believe that in the US, rechargeable Li batteries can not excede an >AA size. > I found that in litigation obsessed North America, There used to be a company called "Moli" or "Molicell" near Vancouver, BC (Canada), which made a 12V (4 cell AA) rechargable Lithium pack. They used to Advertize in QST and other Ham magazines. It was only for "experimental" use. You had to have a waiver (which they sent you) to transport 4AA cells on a US domestic flight. It also required a "plug" be removed to break a 4 cell pack into two 2 cell packs for shipment to keep the DOT happy. As I recall, the total capacity was 3X or so a Nicad. However, one could only use the center 1/3 or so of the charge/discharge curve. Exceeding it at either end, caused the cell to fail and/or not to be rechargable. This meant the capacity was about 1X a Nicad in this mode. They had almost "infinite" shelf lives, and state of charge was easily determined bu cell voltage (under no load). The voltage varied quite a bit during discharge, was something like 12v down to 9V or so.. A 4 cell pack cost $100, which had a charger kit in it.. charger had to cut off at a certain voltage.. Pack had "fuses", so a short would not make it blow up. Also, if tossed in a fire, they would "burn profusely", not blow up, the manual said (due to vents). --ghg
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Newsgroups: sci.electronics Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!sparky!uunet!ornl!utkcs2!emory!swrinde!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!uwm.edu!spool.mu.edu!news.nd.edu!mentor.cc.purdue.edu!noose.ecn.purdue.edu!en.ecn.purdue.edu!ghg From: ghg@en.ecn.purdue.edu (George Goble) Subject: Re: Rechargeable lithium batteries? Message-ID: <1992Dec11.184906.1240@en.ecn.purdue.edu> Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network References: <1992Dec9.155931.2703@Arco.COM> <1992Dec10.171157.28145@epas.toronto.edu> Date: Fri, 11 Dec 92 18:49:06 GMT Lines: 41