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Article #14839Re: Flywheel batteries as EV power source
From: Dick King
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 21:59
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 21:59
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In article <72055@cup.portal.com> lordSnooty@cup.portal.com (Andrew - Palfreyman) writes: >Frank E Perdicaro writes: >: As an interesting side light, the largest forging ever made is >: the largest flywheel ever that stores energy at MIT for the >: ALCATORC-MOD fusion reactor. It takes like 500 hp all night to spin it up, >: and 3 seconds to stop when the switch is flipped. >: >: Yeah, megajoules, many of them. If there was a quake when the thing >: was spinning, it would remove a large section of Cambridge. >: >: Its surface speed is just below the speed of sound, and it weighs like >: a very large steam locomotive ; and its right next to the FISSION >: reactor..... they know there is no way to stop it if there is a quake, >: so its just in a simple flimsy building. > >I have a problem with this; if v^2 ~= 1e5 (m/s)^2 and you've pumped in >about 3MJ, the mass must be about 60Kg for a disc shape. Perhaps the speed >is not nearly so high - this is hardly a locomotive weight! >(Hint: use Disc Energy = 0.5m(r*w)^2 and 1hp = 764W). > Nobody said 3MJ. 500 HP = 300 KW 300 KW * 28800 seconds [all [the 8 hour] night] = 8640 megajoules. Mr. Perdicaro should perhaps have written "Yeah, GIGAjoules, several of them.". -dk
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Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!sparky!uunet!cs.utexas.edu!sun-barr!olivea!charnel!rat!kestrel.edu!king From: king@reasoning.com (Dick King) Newsgroups: sci.electronics,sci.energy,rec.autos.tech Subject: Re: Flywheel batteries as EV power source Message-ID: <1992Dec21.215940.13504@kestrel.edu> Date: 21 Dec 92 21:59:40 GMT References: <1goebdINNik@gap.caltech.edu> <3204@contex.contex.com> <72055@cup.portal.com> Sender: news@kestrel.edu (News) Organization: Reasoning Systems, Inc., Palo Alto, CA Lines: 30 Nntp-Posting-Host: drums.reasoning.com