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Re: Flywheel batteries as EV power source

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From: Mark Wilson
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 14:31
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In <72181@cup.portal.com> Ted_Eugene_Viens@cup.portal.com writes:

|Don't want to dissillusion you, Mark.  But I think we are going to find that
|the 1995 compacts weigh a lot less than the 1975 compacts.  Sure, the purchase
|price has gone up.  But has the product lifetime cost in constant dollars gone
|up.  Truth is, I don't know, but my bet is on the not meaningfully side...
|I can promise you this...  Nothing will be brought to market that violates
|prevailing economic tenets.  I still _believe_ that effecient Electric Vehicles
|and Flywheel Vehicles will come to market within ten years.  The product 
|lifetime cost will be less than contemporary internal combustion vehicles.
|And the US economy will be most threatened by the rapid down-sizing of the
|aftermarket auto industry...

Any light weight materials that are cheap enough to go into an electric car
can also go into an IC car.  Therefore, this is not an advantage for the
electric.
We already have _efficient_ electric cars, the problem is cost effectiveness.
In order for this to happen you are going to have to have major improvements
in battery technology, and gas prices will have to go up by a factor of 3
to 4, without electricity prices going up at all.
Flywheel vehicles will only happen if congress manages to repeal most of
the laws of physics.  If you still believe otherwise, you have not been
reading this thread very carefully.
-- 
Mob rule doesn't become any prettier, just because the mob start to call itself
a government.
It ain't charity if you are using someone else's money.
Mark.Wilson@AtlantaGA.NCR.com
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From: mwilson@ncratl.AtlantaGA.NCR.COM (Mark Wilson)
Newsgroups: sci.electronics,sci.energy,rec.autos.tech
Subject: Re: Flywheel batteries as EV power source
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Date: 22 Dec 92 14:31:38 GMT
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