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Re: Flywheel batteries as EV power source

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From: Richard Stead
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 16:22
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In article <72182@cup.portal.com>, Ted_Eugene_Viens@cup.portal.com writes:
> flywheel, and the coils for electric power transfer.  Unfortunately I have neve
> r
> obtained a CRC Physical Sciences reference book and I am a bit weak on various 
> heats of melting and vaporization.  Some crude calculations showed that to go
> 600 miles at 60 mph might take some 100 to 400 MegaJoules.  Nothing to snitch at

400 is about right.

> I agree.  However this would be non-stop driving.  which is contrary to the 
> intended use of these vehicles in stop and go city driving.  What  reduction 
> factor would be introduced by regenerative braking?

negative reduction!!  Or are you one of those free-energy fanatics who believe
that you can get more energy out of a process than you put in?

Come on!!!

You put energy into the car to get it up to speed.  Then you brake - any energy
recovered would be less than or equal to the energy needed to get it back up to
speed.  We all know from entropy, however, that you won't get all the energy
back from regenerative braking.  Therefore, and note carefully:

Stop and go driving will require MORE energy, not less.

That's right - why do you think city mpg are less than highway?  I mean, for
city dirving, since the velocities are lower, you fight less air resistance -
in you naive system, city driving would have better mpg.

You want 600 miles of city driving, even with regenerative braking, be prepared
for Gigajoule flywheels that will melt entire the entire vehicle and leave a
hole in the street on failure.

> Still, I return to my original opening remark.  I have some faith in the engine
> ers
> responsible for designing Flywheel Batteries...

Really?  Hey, I got some prime Florida real estate to sell you.
We could really make some bucks off this pup's "faith".


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Richard Stead
Center for Seismic Studies
Arlington, VA
stead@seismo.css.gov
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