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Article #15145Re: Pseudo-static RAMS: SUMMARY
From: Phil Ngai
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 20:06
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 20:06
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In article <1992Dec15.023603.27256@cc.gatech.edu> byron@cc.gatech.edu (Byron A Jeff) writes: >>> [Byron] >> [John West] >[Byron's additional comments, questions, and suggestions] >>Random access cycles tend to be fairly slow. (I've got data on Hitachi's >>HM658512 512K*8 PSRAM. Random access for the -8 part is 160ns. For addresses >>within the same column (high 8 address bits the same), the access time is 80ns. >AHA! I knew that there wasn't something for nothing. The part number you >quoted maybe the part I've found. So in essense it's an 80ns page mode (or >static column, I could never tell the difference) 4 Mbit Dram with built-in >refresh.... > >Are you sure about the 8 high bits? So the RAM is asymettric (8 rows and 11 >columns)? I'll take 2K columns if that's really the case because I can keep >the RAM asserted until I switch to a new page on them. Giving me 80 ns >access time for all but the first access of a page. Hmmmm. I don't think you're reading the data sheet correctly. The HM658512 devices does not have a "page" mode. All accesses take the same amount of time, 80 ns from when CE* goes active. Then you must precharge the device for 40 ns (tp), and allowing 5 ns each for CE* rise and fall time, the cycle time is a minimum of 130 ns. (precharge is required for ALL cycles, not just those that are not "in-page".) Also, this part does not act like a "real" SRAM because the address is latched on the falling edge of CE*. Changing the address during CE* low has no effect, the address is only loaded during the falling edge. Aside from that, it's a cute part if you don't want to use a real DRAM. >[ The Toshiba part had 1/2 clock (40-50ns) precharge with 130ns cycle time. I > can most definitely live with that for a whopping 2 Mbytes of memory for $108 This sounds like the Hitachi part also. -- My opinions are my own.
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Newsgroups: sci.electronics Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!sparky!uunet!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!sdd.hp.com!hplabs!nsc!decwrl!adobe!pngai From: pngai@adobe.com (Phil Ngai) Subject: Re: Pseudo-static RAMS: SUMMARY Message-ID: <1992Dec15.200608.3257@adobe.com> Sender: usenet@adobe.com (USENET NEWS) Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated References: <1992Dec15.023603.27256@cc.gatech.edu> Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 20:06:08 GMT Lines: 39