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Article #15494Re: Flywheel batteries as EV power source
From: Richard Stead
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 01:44
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 01:44
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In article <1hcmi5INN7fd@armory.centerline.com>, jimf@centerline.com (Jim Frost) writes: > I thought it was assumed that the flywheel operated in vacuum? The > "shock wave" will be expanding particles thrown off from the wheel > itself, and the speed will depend on how fast the particle was moving > when the wheel disintegrated. I suspect that'll be a whole hell of a > lot faster than the speed of sound. Hyper velocity rotor failure will likely include a shockwave in the rotor itself as a result of the hypervelocity fracture of the material. > This discussion is great, but as I mentioned before it's also moot > unless someone's figured out a way to eliminate gyroscopic effects > from the flywheel. These would be considerable, you know. The torque would be less than 250,000 N-m. (The 250000 comes from a flywheel 1 meter in radius storing 92000 kCal and spinning 2775 radians/s. Since angular momentum is energy divided by angular velocity, a more reaonably sized flywheel (which would necessarily spin faster) would store the same energy, but result in less torque. The turn was 90 degrees in 1 second). This is a lot, but probably could be managed for awhile. We can assume that 2 flywheels are mounted with opposing spin, so net torque is zero, but the frame would be strongly and repeatedly flexed with 10,000 to 100,000 N-m of torque. The mounts or frame would eventually distort or fail. I don't have any figures for this sort of failure, so I can't compute when a typical mount might fail. I would guess it would be a long time, on the order of years, by just gross comparison to normal engine torque and the failure of engine mounts. I assume the flywheel mounts would be designed so as to minimze torque on the frame itself. -- Richard Stead Center for Seismic Studies Arlington, VA stead@seismo.css.gov
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Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!sparky!uunet!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!darwin.sura.net!seismo!skadi!stead From: stead@skadi.CSS.GOV (Richard Stead) Newsgroups: sci.electronics,sci.energy,rec.autos Subject: Re: Flywheel batteries as EV power source Message-ID: <51716@seismo.CSS.GOV> Date: 29 Dec 92 01:44:29 GMT References: <78564@ncratl.AtlantaGA.NCR.COM> <1hcmi5INN7fd@armory.centerline.com> Sender: usenet@seismo.CSS.GOV Followup-To: sci.energy Lines: 36 Nntp-Posting-Host: skadi.css.gov