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Article #15521Re: Flywheel batteries as EV power source
From: Vance Morrison
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 17:23
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 17:23
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Ligon@macgw1.ge.com (Woody Ligon) writes: >If such effects are significant they could be, I suppose, an additional >selling point both in terms of ride quality and safety. >I am assuming of course that the flywheel axle is vertical and the plane of >rotation is horizontal. >Also wouldn't it seem that the gyroscopic effects would put terrific >strains on the flywheel bearing systems whenever the car hit a bump in the >road? And how do you make a bearing strong enough to take that beating and >still be extremely low friction? Actually, the rotational inertia is not really the big problem with flywheels. First of all, if you do it right, the inertia can help, not hurt (mounting the flywheel horizontally will keep the car from tipping left to right or up and down, which is desirable (just the wheels move up and down)). If you REALLY don't want the angular inertia, you can get rid of it one of two ways. First, you could mount the flywheel in a gyroscope. Thus the flywheel simply moves without effecting the car. This also removes flywheel axial loads. The other possibilty is to have to counter-rotating flywheels. In this case the angular inertia cancels out (there is high axial load between the two flywheels, however). The REAL problem with flywheels is safety and weight. Remember that a flywheel has the energy equivalent of gallons of gasoline. If you were in a accident, this energy could all be release suddenly. Thus there MUST be some sort of containment system to insure that even in the worst case the flywheel does not turn into a very large hand grenade. This can be done, but the containment system adds even more to the cost and weight of the system. Since flywheels are not the greatest in terms of energy density to begin with, this is not good. It seems to me that flywheels DO have good potential in small, stationary applications (for example storing PV solar electricity during the day for use at night, here weight is not a problem, and the flywheel's VERY long life is a major advantage). Vance
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Newsgroups: sci.electronics Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!sparky!uunet!cs.utexas.edu!swrinde!sdd.hp.com!ux1.cso.uiuc.edu!cs.uiuc.edu!morrison From: morrison@cs.uiuc.edu (Vance Morrison) Subject: Re: Flywheel batteries as EV power source Message-ID: <BzD4As.Cup@cs.uiuc.edu> Organization: University of Illinois, Dept. of Comp. Sci., Urbana, IL References: <Bz6nuM.LCo@acsu.buffalo.edu> <1992Dec13.114534.961@cmkrnl.com> <BzB2Iq.Jqn@wang.com> <Ligon-161292082905@3.1.100.11> Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 17:23:13 GMT Lines: 41