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Article #15663Re: Flywheel batteries as EV power source
From: Vance Morrison
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 15:12
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 15:12
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I would just like to chime in that while I beleive that the problems of catastrophic failure is a real problem with flywheels, I also feel that the problem might be solvable. As was discussed, all the energy of the flywheel will be dumped in a accident and methods must be developed to insure a explosion does not result. Here are some possibilities 1) Slow down the rate of energy dumping. Good design should allow that even under conditions of a crash the flywheel will remain intact and contained. Thus instead of blowing apart what we want is for the wheel to bang around inside a housing, loosing energy as it colides with the housing. Thus instead of dumping all its energy in under a second, it will release it over the period of many seconds (the longer the better) This reduces the problem tremendously. 2) Avoid or control the explosion. If the materials in the housing vaporize only a VERY high temperatures, then even in the flywheel dumps its energy, no GASES will be generated, and thus no explosion. Alternately, you can use gas creation to absorb the enery and design methods of savely venting it. 3) Absorb the energy. There is no reason why some of the energy could be converted to something besides heat. If the housing was lined with some chemical that underwent fast, a heavily endothermic reaction, much of the energy could be absorbed as chemical potential energy. (High heat of melting or vaporization?) If such chemicals can't be found, as a worst case, the housing could be made out of something with a high heat capacity and high melting point. Finally, if all of these fail, a flywheel will still be possible simply by scaling it down. As was mentioned, the large POWER density of a flywheel make it ideal for regenerative breaking. It may be desirable to have a small flywheel for this purpose. Since it holds far less energy, make int safe should be easy. I believe a road worthy flywheel can be made. The only question is is it worth it. It might be too heavy or too expensive, or there simply might be better ways of storing energy for vehicular applications. Vance
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Newsgroups: sci.electronics,sci.energy,rec.autos.tech Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!sparky!uunet!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!uwm.edu!ux1.cso.uiuc.edu!cs.uiuc.edu!morrison From: morrison@cs.uiuc.edu (Vance Morrison) Subject: Re: Flywheel batteries as EV power source Message-ID: <BzEsw7.57B@cs.uiuc.edu> Organization: University of Illinois, Dept. of Comp. Sci., Urbana, IL References: <1992Dec15.194558.2556@adobe.com> <1992Dec16.192456.6261@news.cs.brandeis.edu> <1goebdINNik@gap.caltech.edu>,<BzE2oz.I4H@ns1.nodak.edu> <1gp8c9INNik@gap.caltech.edu> Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 15:12:06 GMT Lines: 44