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Article #15736Re: Flywheel batteries as EV power source
From: David Basiji
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 20:56
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 20:56
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carl@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU (Carl J Lydick) writes: >I'm afraid you've forgotten the law of conservation of energy again. I ask >again: IF THE ENERGY THAT'S BEING DUMPED DOESN'T END UP AS HEAT, WHERE'S IT >GOING? HOW'S IT BEING TRANSFERRED OUT OF THE SYSTEM? >=With proper engineering of the flywheel >=to shatter into uniformly-sized pieces (for maximum energy xfer in collision) >=and an appropriate weave or composite of Kevlar in the housing, it seems >=that it's within shooting range (pardon the pun) to develop a system where >=there's enough energy loss via particle collision and fracture that the >=heat generated in the housing materials will be manageable. >Again you prattle of "energy loss." WHERE IS THIS ENERGY BEING "LOST" TO? >It doesn't just go away because you find it inconvenient. And the remnants of >the flywheel don't just keep orbiting the place where the shaft used to be. So >where did all the kinetic energy go? The energy is being used to split the covalent bonds that hold the flywheel together. In essence, you're separating charged atomic species and therefore converting the kinetic energy of the rotor into potential energy in the form of fragmented material. The idea of the housing is to allow the rotor components enough time to interact with each other so that a large fraction of the energy goes into rotor destruction rather than housing destruction. David Basiji UW Bioengineering NeRD #3762
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Newsgroups: sci.electronics,sci.energy,rec.autos.tech Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!sparky!uunet!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!saimiri.primate.wisc.edu!usenet.coe.montana.edu!news.u.washington.edu!stein.u.washington.edu!basiji From: basiji@stein.u.washington.edu (David Basiji) Subject: Re: Flywheel batteries as EV power source Message-ID: <1992Dec17.205631.9731@u.washington.edu> Sender: news@u.washington.edu (USENET News System) Organization: University of Washington References: <1992Dec13.114534.961@cmkrnl.com> <1992Dec15.004956.465@mtu.edu> <1992Dec15.194558.2556@adobe.com>,<1992Dec16.192456.6261@news.cs.brandeis.edu> <1goebdINNik@gap.caltech.edu>,<1992Dec17.035214.15058@u.washington.edu> <1gov35INNik@gap.caltech.edu>,<1992Dec17.170002.28389@u.washington.edu> <1gqhdqINNjot@gap.caltech.edu> Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 20:56:31 GMT Lines: 30