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Article #16629Re: Microwave Oven Plasma Etcher? (definitions)
From: John Whitmore
Date: Thu, 07 Jan 1993 21:31
Date: Thu, 07 Jan 1993 21:31
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In article <1993Jan7.005550.6869@kodak.kodak.com> ornitz@kodak.kodak.com (Barry x24904/ER/167B-TED) writes: >In article <rich.726361718@pencil> rich@pencil.cs.missouri.edu >(Rich Winkel) writes: >>Can anyone explain what a "Reike and Hartree diagram" is? > >A Rieke diagram is sort of a fancy Smith chart for representing how the load >impedance and its point of connection to the magnetron can affect the power >output of the tube and its frequency. In the context of the original question (lowering the power density in the microwave oven), this is irrelevant. First, the load is the contents of the microwave oven (and this can, we all know, vary quite a lot without stalling the oven). Second, we don't care about the exact frequency (nor the exact power); only large power-output changes are of interest. The load would only change markedly if the feed horn from the magnetron were altered. >A Hartree diagram shows the theoretical minimum anode voltage at which operation >is possible in the various modes of the magnetron. Under operating conditions >the anode voltage must exceed the values given in the diagram. This is obviously of concern. I would have thought that the magnetron was just a diode, and that changing the input current (by substituting a smaller capacitor in the charge-pump power supply) would alter the output power. The implication here is that at too-low voltages the magnetron doesn't oscillate. Again, I think this is not prohibitive: magnetrons are more than 85% efficient, and this implies that the input voltage (which is unfiltered) is in the operating range for a substantial fraction of the whole 60-Hz duty cycle. That implies that the input voltage can vary by a factor of four or so before the magnetron stops oscillating. It might be impossible to get a 100:1 output power range, but 10:1 still looks reasonable. As long as the magnetron doesn't overheat from the current during the 'wasted' time, the microwave oven will still operate even if the magnetron has output efficiency of zero for most of the cycle. It just means that the output power drops to zero faster than proportionally to the input power. Think of it as reciprocity failure :-> John Whitmore
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Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!sparky!uunet!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!darwin.sura.net!spool.mu.edu!caen!saimiri.primate.wisc.edu!usenet.coe.montana.edu!news.u.washington.edu!carson.u.washington.edu!whit From: whit@carson.u.washington.edu (John Whitmore) Newsgroups: sci.electronics Subject: Re: Microwave Oven Plasma Etcher? (definitions) Date: 7 Jan 1993 21:31:28 GMT Organization: University of Washington, Seattle Lines: 48 Message-ID: <1ii7fgINNh20@shelley.u.washington.edu> References: <1993Jan6.160107.19682@kodak.kodak.com> <rich.726361718@pencil> <1993Jan7.005550.6869@kodak.kodak.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: carson.u.washington.edu Keywords: microwave, Reike and Hartree diagrams, Gerling Labs