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Article #17220Re: active high TTL decoders?
From: apn
Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1987 16:53
Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1987 16:53
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in article <14491@amdcad.UUCP>, phil@amdcad.UUCP (Phil Ngai) says:
> In article <359@uthub.toronto.edu> koko@uthub.toronto.edu (M. Kokodyniak) writes:
>>Besides, not everyone has access to programming
>>tools needed for programming PAL's.
>
>>I don't understand why engineers and technical people always have to be
>>so gung-ho about technology and insist that nothing short of the
>>leading edge of technology is good enough for them. I assume some
>>humility and am quite content riding the falling edge of technology.
>
>>Besides, I am not that lazy that I would always insist on the rising
>>edge just to save time and effort. Furthermore, I appreciate that
>>the falling edge can sometimes save me money.
>
> The main question is, are you making just one or are you designing a
> product? The design rules depend on this. I was speaking to people who
> make from 10 to 10,000 of something. Other volumes call for different
> methods.
>
> --
PAL's, IFL's, etc.
PAL logic is great for some areas, and I have used it, however,
please don't be so niave as to leave out one damn important factor:
(see #3 below)
if an off the shelf ttl or whatever (substitute your favorite
logic family here) is available or maybe will come in 2 packages instead
of one as compared to a PAL, then the "discrete" design is still quite
likely the win. PAL's have several serious problems:
1] they are usually not as fast as the same implemtation
in some other logic... say MSI/SSI ttl
2] they tend to consume more power than is needed for the same
effective circuitry.
3] they almost always cost more!! For example:
lets combine a few SSI/MSI ttl packages
say a '08 and a '02 and an '04
total cost in TTL is about $0.50 in small quantity
for a simple, non-registerd PAL we get $3.00,
and price does not
go down much, even in large quantity of say, 25k
pieces.
Is this worth the savings in board space ? Well... everything
must be weighed. I just seem to find it hard to tolerate
individuals that jump the gun and insist on using a PAL for
the *most* trivial of logic designs.
--
Alex P Novickis
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