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Article #18994Re: Posting of schematics with SPICE format
From: Paul Dietz
Date: Thu, 07 Apr 1988 09:27
Date: Thu, 07 Apr 1988 09:27
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In article <346@gaia.UUCP> cook@gaia.UUCP (Forrest Cook) writes:
>My $.02:
> The SPICE format is nice because it is easy to understand with or
> without a computer. The limitation is that there is no position
> information for parts.
>
> The Solution: A list of part positions could be included (or a
> position field for each part) to describe the location of the
> part on the schematic. This would allow a person or program
> to locate the part and then connect the nodes.
> Or... How about a list of NODE positions?
> Positions could be given in universal coordinates with 0,0 at
> the lower left side of the page and 1.0, 1.0 at the upper right
> side of the page. This would allow easy translation to pixel
> oriented devices as well as approximate analog devices such
> as people.
This is pretty much what I had in mind when I suggested an extended
SPICE format. In specific, I'd like to put all non-spice type
commands in { }'s so a program could easily strip it out.
As for position info, I favor having a small, extensible standard
library. The info you would send would be part position, and orientation.
(Orientation could be done like CIF using direction vectors, and mirrors.)
For instance:
* ASTERISKS INDICATE COMMENTS LINES IN SPICE
*
* COLLECTOR BASE EMITTER
Q1 5 3 6 NPNBJT
{POS: Q1 MX, R(0,1), T(5,37)}
{DEF: NPNBJT
L(1,2),(2,2)
L(2,1),(2,3)
L(3,0),(3,1),(2,2),(3,3),(3,4)
L(3,1.5),(3,1),(2.5,1)}
I think most of this is self evident. M is mirror, R is rotate, and
T is translate. Any comments?
Paul H. Dietz ____ ____
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Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!utzoo!mnetor!uunet!lll-winken!lll-tis!ames!mailrus!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!bloom-beacon!mit-eddie!uw-beaver!cornell!rochester!PT.CS.CMU.EDU!SPEECH1.CS.CMU.EDU!phd From: phd@SPEECH1.CS.CMU.EDU (Paul Dietz) Newsgroups: sci.electronics Subject: Re: Posting of schematics with SPICE format Message-ID: <1337@PT.CS.CMU.EDU> Date: 7 Apr 88 09:27:40 GMT References: <346@gaia.UUCP> Sender: netnews@PT.CS.CMU.EDU Organization: Carnegie-Mellon University, CS/RI Lines: 48 Keywords: Why not include X Y locations of parts?