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Article #19635Re: VCR comercial eliminator
From: John Pantone
Date: Wed, 31 Aug 1988 16:38
Date: Wed, 31 Aug 1988 16:38
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>I don't know why everyone is discussing fade to black detection, special
>signals in the vertical sync, or whatever for commercial detection. All
>ya gotta do is monitor the sound track and wait for the volume to go up.
Because the "fact" that TV commercials are louder than the program
material is simply a myth. The FCC was involved in an investigation
recently (several years ago, I think), and the results were negative;
commercials vary their sound levels roughly identically to program
material. They do, though, frequently use various compression and/or
expansion schemes to cause a higher "modulation percentage" in the
soundtrack, and to prevent "dead-air" (silence is anathema to
advertisers).
There is no signal present on broadcast tv which presages a commercial
- if there was that network would find itself bankrupt awfully fast -
can you imagine spending hundreds of millions of dollars advertising
on a tv station whose viewers could effectively ignore your
commercials?
I can't comment on cable - although I should imagine that the
commercial forces would be the same there.
Fade-to-black is a fairly good way to detect a commercial - except of
course when it occurs during the program - probably not frequently in
comedies, but dramas use this technique frequently; yielding a 30
second hole in your recording.
I'm afraid that there just isn't a very good way to avoid commercials
- in an automated system; and if one is found, the advertisers and tv
broadcasters will surely institute lawsuits and/or countermeasures -
advertising is their paycheck.
--
These opinions are solely mine and in no way reflect those of my employer.
John M. Pantone @ GE/Calma R&D, 9805 Scranton Rd., San Diego, CA 92121
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