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Article #21616Re: HV Cap Fun!
From: Jeff Winslow
Date: Sat, 03 Jun 1989 15:04
Date: Sat, 03 Jun 1989 15:04
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I have a question for the non-5v advocates: Where did all the extra charge
come from? Q = C*V. If the final voltage is 7.07, you just made 8.28 coulombs
for free.
Maybe this will reassure some people. Look at the case where there
is a resistor R connecting the two capacitors, each with capacitance C. The
current through this resistor starts out at 10/R and decays toward zero at
infinite time by an exponential function with time constant RC/2. (See any
circuit theory book if you don't believe me.) In other "words"...
I = (10/R) * exp (-2*t/(R*C))
P = R*I^2 = (100/R) * exp (-4*t/(R*C))
To get the energy dissipated in the resistor, integrate power over time from
0 to infinity...
/oo oo
E = (100/R) * | exp(-4*t/(R*C)) dt = (100/R) * (-R*C/4)exp(-4*t/(R*C)) ]
/ 0 0
= (100/R) * ( 0 - (-R*C/4)) which is, (voila!)
= 25*C
2 Farads? There's your missing 50 joules - in the resistor.
(Note that the factor of 25 is, more generally, 1/4 of V^2, where V is the
initial voltage difference between the capacitors.)
It's not at all hard for me to believe that in the resistanceless case, the
energy is carred off by radiation - anybody want to volunteer to do that
analysis? My Maxwell's eqs are a bit rusty.
Jeff Winslow
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