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From: David Chapman
Date: Sat, 03 Feb 1990 03:04
Date: Sat, 03 Feb 1990 03:04
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In article <1990Jan30.163700.3520@utzoo.uucp> henry@utzoo.uucp (Henry Spencer) writes:
|In article <26414@cup.portal.com> Ordania-DM@cup.portal.com (Charles K Hughes) writes:
|>I am working on an 8MHz 6502/65816 design and I need to know what speed
|>of DRAM I need. The spec sheets for the 6502 list a 60ns access time,
|>but I am having trouble believing this when there are 33MHz '386 machines
|>using 80ns drams. Could somebody explain how this works...
|
|You've discovered Excedrin Headache Number 3.14159 of fast processor design:
|figuring out how to make the memory fast enough to keep up. 386 and 6502
|clock speeds are not directly comparable, so that analogy doesn't hold up.
|An 8MHz 6502 has a 125ns cycle, during which it has to do an entire memory
|access plus overhead (the 386 spreads this over multiple cycles). Taking
|half the cycle for overhead is a little much, but not grossly implausible
|for a basically low-speed part pushed to higher speeds.
Also, if you're paying lotsa bucks for a 33 MHz 386 system, they'll often
have cache memory in them. 95% of your accesses go into a 25 or 30 ns
64K SRAM. This might not be easy to add for a 6502/65816, however. It
also costs money, just like 60 ns DRAMs.
--
David Chapman
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Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!utzoo!attcan!uunet!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!brutus.cs.uiuc.edu!apple!amdahl!pyramid!leadsv!practic!vlsisj!davidc From: davidc@vlsisj.VLSI.COM (David Chapman) Newsgroups: sci.electronics Subject: Re: DRAM & Speeds needed... Message-ID: <15470@vlsisj.VLSI.COM> Date: 3 Feb 90 03:04:56 GMT References: <26414@cup.portal.com> <1990Jan30.163700.3520@utzoo.uucp> Reply-To: davidc@vlsisj.UUCP (David Chapman) Organization: VLSI Technology Inc., San Jose, CA Lines: 24