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Article #22633Nerve interface was Re: FSK, Vision, and the Brain
From: Rich Grise
Date: Wed, 14 May 2003 19:47
Date: Wed, 14 May 2003 19:47
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r norman <rsnorman_@_comcast.net> wrote in message news:<7q60cv8nmpgth7v2g4rqkbn4o33os3de8v@4ax.com>... > On Mon, 12 May 2003 23:09:11 +0200, Jean-Michel Friedt > <friedtj@imec.be> wrote: > > >> I heard once that someone somewhere somehow got a neuron to adhere to > >> a silicon chip, and that the next stage would be for them to communicate > >> with each other. > > > >There were a lot of presentation at the 49th meeting of the > >Americal Vacuum Society about oriented neural growth and > >interfacing with electrodes. I can be done, but it's neither > >trivial nor reliable (having the neuron grow along an electrode > >does not mean it will make an electrical connexion). > > > >A short summary of the presentation I attended is available > >at http://mmyotte.free.fr/chua/avs_summary.pdf, which provides > >some names/web pages/litterature references on the topic. > > > >Jean-Michel > > And also getting tissue cultured cells to grow along a silicon > substrate is a lot different from trying to interface to cells inside > a real, living brain. Actually, what I was thinking was more along the lines of something interfacing with the nerve stub in the stump, which, admittedly is a little off-topic for the thread. According to what I know about it, a severed nerve "wants" to grow back, and one doctor told me that they do a millimeter a week. So what we'd need to do is find something to do to an interface chip that makes it "look" (or feel) like a dendrite to the live neuron. I'd be quite reluctant having something implanted in my skull (although if, God forbid, I were struck blind, I might change my tune), but I think if I lost a limb I'd be happy to have scientists experiment with my stump. As long as they can do it painlessly. I'm also fascinated by the "phantom limb" phenomenon, and I think it'd be neater than a rat to see if a phantom limb makes a Kirlian photograph image. Cheers! Rich
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