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Article #2870Re: Engine Knock Sensor
From: Dan Koller*
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 12:50
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 12:50
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In article <#+8tqjm@rpi.edu> richtt@aix.rpi.edu (Timothy G. Richter) writes: >I need to determine the output of an engine knock sensor. As far as I >know, the knock sensor is a piezo-electric "microphone" which "listens" >for knock. Knock occurs at 6.5kHz, and the knock sensor is (I'm guessing) >a narrow-band pass filter at 6.5khz. Using this assumption, I'd expect >to get a 6.5kHz sine wave at the output when the sensor is exposed to knock. >I can't get engine under load to create knock, so I'm going to try using >a speaker. Does anyone know how these sensors operate and what the output >is? This is going to be connected to a microcontroller (68HC16) to help >with fuel injection and spark timing. > I'm no expert on engine knock, so wait for the experts. In any case, my guess is that engine knock produces a very complicated waveform, with many harmonics. After all, if it were just a 6.5Khz sine wave, it probably wouldn't cause damage to the engine! 6.5Khz might be optimized for some characteristic of the block. I would recomend getting your engine to knock a bit. Use real cheap gas (Sunoco 86 octane), or advance the timing a few degrees. That's a simple reversible matter and it won't cause engine damage unless you drive that way continuously. If you can't adjust anything, try flooring the pedal on a cold morning while going up hill, shortly after starting the car. The choke should be set so you'll get a rich mixture and it might knock. Try taping the sound. Let me know about the results you get. A properly working engine knock sensor might have saved my last Shitty Chevy. On the other hand, it was a Celebrity with a Fiero 4 cylinder engine so nothing could save it... Good luck. Danube
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Newsgroups: sci.electronics Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!sparky!uunet!cs.utexas.edu!qt.cs.utexas.edu!yale.edu!cmcl2!sbcs.sunysb.edu!dirac!danube From: danube@dirac.physics.sunsyb.edu (Dan Koller*) Subject: Re: Engine Knock Sensor Organization: Institute for Theoretical Physics, SUNY at Stony Brook Distribution: na Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 12:50:33 GMT Message-ID: <1992Apr14.125033.10717@dirac.physics.sunsyb.edu> References: <#+8tqjm@rpi.edu> Lines: 30