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In article <1992Apr12.201321.24624@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu>, berger@atropa (Mike Berger) writes...
>You're right - I wouldn't like it at all.  And it most certainly WOULD
>look like torture to me if somebody strapped a collar around me that
>could shock me at HIS discretion, and I have no control over it.

With the invisible fence, you CAN NOT "at your discretion" shock your dog!

>If owners were responsible enough to take proper care of their dogs, they
>wouldn't resort to torture devices.  Shock collars are not a constructive
>or positive way to teach a dog anything but fear.  I know many well-behaved
>dogs that didn't need pain and fear to teach them.

As you know, dog's are ANIMALS not rational humans.  I don't know any dogs 
which won't go chasing a rabbit that was sitting at the back door of the 
house, especially when the rabbit runs when the door is opened!  I believe 
that it is the responsible owners who use some type of device which 
prevents the dog from running off (ie. those with some type of restraining 
device).  I also don't know of any well-behaved male dog which will stay in 
his yard if a female dog in heat walks by.

The invisible fence collar will sound an audible tone, depending on the 
collar, for .5 to 2 seconds before you get the shock.  The shock is 
slightly worse than a cattle fence (it usually does not bother me to hold 
on to the cattle fence).  If you have an invisible fence, you don't just go 
out there to shock the hell out of your dog.  If it is done right, and the 
dog is a fast lerner, he will only get shocked a few times.  The dog will 
relate that shock to passing the boundry flags and will no longer cross 
them. 

My German Shepherd has one and she will not go past it now.  She does not 
even have to wear the collar.  We have many rabbits which visit and she 
enjoys chasing them from the yard.  She will not go across the line.  Even 
if we leave the yard, she stops.  She has the .5 sec collar and if she 
hears the tone from the collar, she backs up IMMEDIATELY.

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