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Article #5332Re: VHF tranceiver specs
From: Larry Lippman
Date: Sun, 29 Jul 1990 04:10
Date: Sun, 29 Jul 1990 04:10
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In article <1990Jul29.015732.21869@phri.nyu.edu>, roy@alanine.phri.nyu.edu (Roy Smith) writes:
> I'm trying to compare several Marine VHF/FM tranceivers. In the
> spec sheet, there are figures for Sensitivity, subheading "12 dB SINAD".
> I've never seen the acronym SINAD before; what does it mean? The ratings
> run from 0.20uV to 0.35uV. Are these good numbers? They also list "20 dB
> quieting" (0.25uV to 0.40uV), but I'm not sure exactly what that means
> either.
Your data sheet must have a typographical error. In the particular
case of marine radios, the acronym SINBAD is used, which is a subjective
sensitivity rating originated by Sinbad the Sailor.
I'm sorry; the Devil grabbed hold of my keyboard and made me write
the above. :-)
Seriously, though, SINAD is a widely accepted approach for the
specification of receiver sensitivity. SINAD is an EIA method which
expresses in decibels the ratio of [SIGNAL + NOISE + DISTORTION] to
[NOISE + DISTORTION]. A 12dB ratio is used as an arbitrary point for
reference sensitivity. The 12 dB merely indicates the measurement
ratio, and is not a specification for the receiver per se.
12 dB SINAD sensitivities of 0.20 uV to 0.35 uV are good numbers;
offhand, on a top-of-the-line commercial VHF-FM radio radio like say,
the Motorola Micor, I don't ever recall seeing anything better than
0.175 uV - and that was with the preamp option.
20 dB quieting sensitivity is used as a means to express the
noise figure of the radio in uV as opposed to dB. The 20 dB is a fixed
ratio used to define a measurement condition. The 20 dB quieting
sensitivity will always be a higher value than the 12 dB SINAD value.
The figures you give above are good numbers, and they don't get any
better for this type of radio.
A specification which you haven't mentioned is EIA SINAD
selectivity, which would be my next concern. I would not settle for
anything less than -95 dB @ +/- 30 kHz. In addition, I would look
for spurious and image rejection of at least 95 dB.
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