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Article #6448Re: Nicad Zapper
From: George Goble
Date: Sun, 16 Aug 1992 22:04
Date: Sun, 16 Aug 1992 22:04
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In article <11AUG199210550479@rover.uchicago.edu> frank@rover.uchicago.edu writes: >In article <1992Aug7.161224.29053@awdprime.austin.ibm.com>, dewey@vpdbox.austin.ibm.com writes... >>All the talk about NiCad Memory and such, I decided to post this. >> >>"One of the most useful and money saving kits you can buy!, The Nicad >>Zapper Kit repairs those nicads that no longer will take a charge >>due to the growth of interal 'whiskers'. The Zapper operates from >>6VDC (battery not included) and develops 300 VDC which it momentarily >>applies to the nicad to 'blow the whiskers' without damagaing the battery. >>Repairs about 90% of nicads in sizes AA to C cells. After zapping, the >>nicad is ready to be fully charged again. Size of board: 2.6" x 2.7". >>Complete with all parts, PC boards and instructions. Skill Level 3." >> >> >>Anyone have any comments about such a device. > > From one of Bob Pease's articles, a simpler zapper consists of > charging a 500ufd battery to around 12 volts, then discharging > it into the cell. If that doesn't work, up the cap by a factor of 10. > > I have tried it, it does work, batteries with a dead short do come > back to life. Don't think 300 volts is necessary, main question is > how much energy (charge * voltage) to dump into a battery to blow > the wiskers. Like Bob's idea of starting out small, then going up > in capacitance in steps. How about 120,000 ufd @ 55V. I inherited a 7.5V cell phone pack with two shorted cells. A battery "reconditioner" (has caps to zap it for whiskers), didn't heal it for long. I zapped it with the above cap, didn't work either. The pack has some sort of positive temp coef device which goes open circuit above about 1 amp or so. Short circuit protection. This limits the amount of zap. I popped open the pack (AA cells, 700 mah or so), located the two shorted cells. I charged up the cap to 55V, and administered it with clip leads and paper clips to the cell casings (bad idea). The paper clip vaporized (like a black-cat firecracker), and burned a hole into the side of the cell, about 1/8" deep (you could see the wrappings/foil). It got rid of the short though. I sealed it up right away with refrigeration epoxy.. Dunno how well that pack will work. My orig cell phone packs are still performing well (approx 2200 charge/discharge cycles over 6 years now).. but they have been "taken care of". Slow charging (16 & 24 hour rates), and discharged down to 1.1V per cell. One pack shorted a cell last dec from whiskers, but the cap zapped it ok (did not open it up to bypass the current limiter). I have heard that pulse charging Nicads with 10X the current at 10% duty cycle keeps the whiskers down. Any of you used chargers which sense the slight voltage depression at end of charge to terminate a "fast charge"? --ghg
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Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!sparky!uunet!gatech!purdue!mentor.cc.purdue.edu!noose.ecn.purdue.edu!en.ecn.purdue.edu!ghg From: ghg@en.ecn.purdue.edu (George Goble) Newsgroups: sci.electronics Subject: Re: Nicad Zapper Message-ID: <1992Aug16.220410.15327@en.ecn.purdue.edu> Date: 16 Aug 92 22:04:10 GMT References: <1992Aug7.161224.29053@awdprime.austin.ibm.com> <11AUG199210550479@rover.uchicago.edu> Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network Lines: 51