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Article #9313Re: Oscillators with extra-large frequency ranges
From: MUNTS PHILLIP A
Date: Sun, 06 Jan 1991 02:55
Date: Sun, 06 Jan 1991 02:55
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In article <44553@mips.mips.COM>, mark@mips.COM (Mark G. Johnson) writes...
>
> >> As a hobbyist electronician I have come across a real problem.
> >> For a certain project, I would need an oscillator with digital,
> >> LOGARITHMIC adjusting (32-bit, 1000 x log) and a HUGE range,
> >> 1 kHz to 100 MHz. Is this at all possible?
>
>In <6560003@hpfcbig.SDE.HP.COM> bame@hpfcbig.SDE.HP.COM (Paul Bame) writes:
> >The incredibly precise logarithmic control may be a real pain - just
> >consider the problem of accurately measuring 1 (log) bit in 32 bits with a
> >frequency counter - you might need an expensive counter with a very long
> >capture time to resolve 1KHz from 1KHz + 1 bit. You didn't mention how fast
> >this thing is required to change frequency.
>
>
>
>Just to consider it from another angle .... 32-bit frequency control requires
>what kind of resolution in _TIME_?? There are 2^32 = 4294967296 different
>frequencies. If let "R" stand for the ratio between frequencies, then
>
> 1kHz * (R ^ 4294967296) = 100 MHz, hence R = 1.00000000321667422079114998.
>
>The uppermost frequency is 100.0000000MHz ; the next lower frequency
>is (100MHz / R) = 99.999999678332578955584303 MHz. The _periods_ of the
>waveforms are:
>
> 100.000000000000000000000000 MHz: period = 10000000.00000000000 femtoseconds
> 99.999999678332578955584303 MHz: period = 10000000.03216674221 femtoseconds
>
>This would be exceedingly difficult to do, and even more difficult to
>verify / validate / certify. For example the timebase must have an
>accuracy of better than one part in 4294967296, while quartz crystals
>are typically 10 ppm (43000 parts in 4294967296).
>--
> -- Mark Johnson
> MIPS Computer Systems, 930 E. Arques M/S 2-02, Sunnyvale, CA 94086
> (408) 524-8308 mark@mips.com {or ...!decwrl!mips!mark}
The design could be easily (albeit expensively) done with one of the new
direct digital synthesizers. For example, Stanford Telecom (408-980-5684) has
a board in their catalog that does 0-110 MHz with 28 bits of frequency
resolution. It costs $1750. With a 300 MHz clock, 28 bits yields 1.1 Hz steps.
Philip Munts N7AHL
NRA Extremist, etc.
University of Alaska, Fairbanks
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Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rutgers!apple!bionet!hayes.ims.alaska.edu!acad3.alaska.edu!ftpam1 From: ftpam1@acad3.alaska.edu (MUNTS PHILLIP A) Newsgroups: sci.electronics Subject: Re: Oscillators with extra-large frequency ranges Message-ID: <1991Jan6.025532.2642@ims.alaska.edu> Date: 6 Jan 91 02:55:32 GMT References: <MLUKKA.90Dec29181404@kannel.lut.fi> <6560003@hpfcbig.SDE.HP.COM> <44553@mips.mips.COM> Sender: usenet@ims.alaska.edu (J Random USENET) Reply-To: ftpam1@acad3.alaska.edu Organization: University of Alaska Fairbanks Lines: 46 News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.3-4 Nntp-Posting-Host: acad3.alaska.edu