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In article <1103@eneevax.UUCP>, noise@eneevax.UUCP (Johnson Noise) writes:
> 	In response to Larry <whoever>'s back of the envelope
> treatise which proves that it is not possible to pick off enough
> energy from high tension wires to light a barn.  You are probably
> right about the small magnetic field, but HAVE YOU EVER HEARD OF
> ELECTRIC FIELDS, BONEHEAD, uh...I mean larry.

	If you had been following the discussion both prior and subsequent
to my article to which you now refer, you could have saved yourself some
considerable embarrassment.  I will refresh your memory:

$$> In article <1913@frog.UUCP>, die@frog.UUCP (Dave Emery) writes:
$$> > >you could do what a buddy of mine did...
$$> > >(his barn was overshot by high voltage lines)
$$> > >wrap the rafters with coils, and make off with some free power!!
$$> > >his barn had "infinite" lighting this way!!!

	In view of the word "coils" above, would you care to speculate whether
the alleged method of "free power" pickup uses magnetic field or E-field? 

$$> > 	I have heard a similar story about farmers in the Midwest using
$$> > long stretches of barbed wire fence near long distance power lines for the
$$> > same "free" power gambit.  As I understand it the power companies were
$$> > able to sucessfully prosecute some of them for stealing power.

	Would you care to speculate on:

1.	The effectiveness of E-field pickup using barbed wire 2 to 4 feet above
	the earth to capture E-field energy emanating from a wire at least
	40 feet above the earth at a frequency of 60 Hz?

2.	The effectiveness of barbed wire stapled to wooden fence posts
	in providing the insulation resistance necessary for E-field pickup?

	In view of (1) and (2) above, would you care to speculate whether
such alleged "free power" method operates by magnetic field or E-field?

> FLOURESCENT LIGHTS
> DON'T TAKE MUCH POWER ANYWAY.

	Funny, but I already addressed that issue.  Why is it that the
reference line in your article shows NONE of the three articles that I
have already posted on this topic?

 "Oh, I've never heard of Nikola
> Tesla or antennas or Maxwell's equations".  WAKE UP!!!!

	Perhaps you could tell us how 60 Hz compares with the frequency
domain used by Tesla in his wireless power distribution work.
	Perhaps you could also tell us how Maxwell's equations help to
prove your point since: (1) the first equation is essentially a statement
of the inverse square law as applied to the electric displacement field
vector; (2) the other three equations involve either the magnetic induction
or the magnetic intensity field vector?  Invoking Maxwell's name in your
behalf does sound impressive, though.

> I'm really sorry if I have offended the rest of the net, but this
> was just too much.  The number of idiots on this net who think
> they know something about anything is overwhelming.

	You haven't offended anyone, but you have clearly demonstrated
yourself to be a member of the "idiot category" to which you refer.  Perhaps
a little more signal and less "Johnson Noise" from you would be in order.

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