🚀 go-pugleaf

Mike Vandeman wrote:
             mjvande@pacbell.net (Mike Vandeman)

> On Fri, 03 Jul 1998 18:01:28 GMT, cmhwk@primary.net (Joe Bader) wrote:
>
> .(reading from rec.bicycles.soc)
> .
> .Is that kind of like "we used to think crossposting was harmless, but
> .found it was not so?"
> .
> .I don't think EVERY newsgroup must be Mike Vandeman-free, but SOME
> .must be, if we are to preserve the rational discussion which takes
> .place there and is threatened.
>
> THIS is "rational discussion"?! What you MEANT to say was "censored
> discussion". Be honest! :)

Mikey the guy SAID " preserve the rational discussion which takes place there and is threatened".  That is what he said and what he
meant.  He didn't say anything about censoring anyone (if he would have meant censor he would have said that should not be on any
group).  The thing is you have a right to speak your mind (no matter how small and closed it is) BUT you DON'T have the right to HARASS,
slander and bother people when they are trying to have a discussion.  If you would be reasonable and contribute LOGICAL and RATIONAL
ideas and concepts maybe then you would be invited to take part.  You remind me of a kid out in the school yard that hollers at and hits
all of the other kids and soon the other kids don't want to play with him/her because the "offending" child is RUDE, OBNOXIOUS and
doesn't contribute POSITIVELY to the group.  Also just because some one points out your lack of REAL FACTS (i.e. scientific and valid
PROOF) or says something you don't like to hear you "holler" at them by saying (and I quote) "That's a lie!", etc........Now that is NOT
rational discussion on YOUR part.  So before you start saying that others are not being rational YOU need to start being rational
FIRST.  So stay on topic, show VALID evidence, and offer REASONABLE and positive solutions and ideas to perceived and real problems.


                                                        WARREN