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Article #2099RE: True Costs of French
From: camerond
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 16:38
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 16:38
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In a previous article, ems@michael.apple.com (E. Michael Smith) wrote: >In article <22JAN93.09072878@cc4.crl.aecl.ca> camerond@cc4.crl.aecl.ca writes: > > >>It is true that the SuperPheonix has had some technical problems, but it is >>not obvious that they could not be overcome in that reactor or successors, >>if there were still the same drive and commitment to the concept. > >Ahh, no it wasn't all. So what were the technical problems? I fully >expect that breeders will be needed in my lifetime, so I'm more than >a little interested in knowing if it was a trivial failure or if the >technical issues ran deeper... (in other words, mis-sizing a motor >or faster than expected burnup wouldn't worry me; but a problem with >the fundamental reprocessing technology requiring a whole new approach >would argue for building a new research plant now. (Given the lead times >involved in R&D ...)). > >-- > >E. Michael Smith ems@apple.COM > >'Whatever you can do, or dream you can, begin it. Boldness has > genius, power and magic in it.' - Goethe > >I am not responsible nor is anyone else. Everything is disclaimed. The scientific viability of fast reactor technology has, I feel, been adequately demonstrated. High plutonium content, high burn-up fuels have been successfully made and used, the science and engineering of fuel reprocessing is obviously doable, or else there would not be so many nuclear weapons in existence, and the French do have a plant in operation that vitrifies the high level waste from fuel reprocessing. The problems with SuperPheonix are largely associated with the use of liquid sodium as a coolant. These problems are of an engineering nature, rather than fundamental and should be soluble given enough effort. I would refer you to a posting of 93/01/26 by Joseph Askew, who originally raised this issue on the net, in which he gives further details of the technology and agrees with my view that the technical issues can probably be overcome. However, there is currently no strong economic incentive to push the technology. Don Cameron
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Newsgroups: sci.energy Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!sparky!uunet!news.univie.ac.at!scsing.switch.ch!univ-lyon1.fr!ghost.dsi.unimi.it!rpi!usc!cs.utexas.edu!torn!nott!cu23.crl.aecl.ca!cc4.crl.aecl.ca!camerond From: camerond@cc4.crl.aecl.ca Subject: RE: True Costs of French Message-ID: <27JAN93.11382848@cc4.crl.aecl.ca> Sender: news@cu23.crl.aecl.ca (USENET News System) Nntp-Posting-Host: cc4.crl.aecl.ca Organization: AECL RESEARCH References: <1993Jan19.215714.9617@gn.ecn.purdue.edu> <1993Jan20.224300.22821@sybus.com> <22JAN93.09072878@cc4.crl.aecl.ca> <1993Jan22.200440.13551@michael.apple.com> Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 16:38:28 GMT Lines: 46