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On 11/03/2013 8:53 AM, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
> In sci.physics jg <jg@nospam.com> wrote:
>> On 11/03/2013 7:07 AM, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>> In sci.physics jg <jg@nospam.com> wrote:
>>>> On 11/03/2013 2:09 AM, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>>
>>> <snip>
>>>
>>>>> It is impossible to compare what your system would cost here without the
>>>>> full and complete specifications.
>>>>>
>>>>> In addition, you would have to specify the full and complete price of
>>>>> everything without any incentives or rebates.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> http://www.australissolar.com.au/packages
>>>
>>> This shows 3 1.5 kW systems ranging from $1990 to $3990 with the caveats
>>> starting from and to approved customers, subject to terms and conditions.
>>>
>>> These prices are no better than the US prices for equivelant systems.
>>>
>>> Where you get that US prices are 5 times higher is beyond me.
>>>
>>>
>> http://www.technologyreview.com/news/509196/why-solar-installations-cost-more-in-the-us-than-in-germany/
>>
>> I have seen other estimates of $7-9 per Watt in the US.
>
> You do realize that media articles aren't retail price lists?
>
>> If you can show me a price of about $2000 for 1.5 kW ($1.30 per watt) I
>> would question how you rate that as millionaire's territory given a 4
>> year payback and $400-500 pa power bill saving without any subsidy.
>
> Well, if I can make any sense of that jumble...
>
> It took me all of a couple of minutes to find local solar sellers with
> prices comperable to those on the web site you mentioned; they were NOT
> 5 times higher for comperable systems.
>

Show me one
http://www.solargaines.com/solarpowercost.html


> I have no clue what you are alluding to with "millionaire's territory".
>

Someone here if not you, claimed I must have money to burn.


> I have done the math for my situation and the best break even period
> I can get is better than 10 years.
>
>> Even savings would cover a loan for the outlay.
>
> This makes no sense what so ever.
>

$400-500 pa saved on power bills goes instead to paying off the $2000 
capital outlay. Without interest that's revenue neutral during payback, 
with interest it adds a bit to the payback time.


>> Debate losses for the power station, but how I am not better off is a
>> mystery.
>
> Perhaps you are. That doesn't mean that solar power plants make any economic
> sense or that a personal solar installation makes economic sense for anyone
> else.
>
>
>
Never heard anyone complain they weren't a good investment, except a few 
who thought they were getting into some get rich quick scheme with loads 
of govt handouts.

That you doubt that, makes me doubtful how objective the rest of your 
assessment is.