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Article #2245Re: Power execs blame gas prices and environment regsforhighelectricity costs
From: Chris Torek
Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2001 13:01
Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2001 13:01
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In article <u%db6.262063$IP1.8811307@news1.giganews.com> Sid Cochran <squidley@ballistic.com> writes: >Speaking of incompetence and greed, I see by some of the current articles >in www.latimes.com that one-third of the electrical load in your State--or >perhaps tha only applies in the PG&E territory--is supplied by 'green power' >producers ... Someone is confused (either you or the LA Times author, or maybe both). About 1/3 of the supply in the state comes from so-called "alternative providers", but not all of them are "green". For instance, some of them burn wood (!). (No doubt this is "waste" wood, but still.) The so-called "green" portion is more like 12%. >Perhaps you should either allow the utilities (or PG&E) either to recoup the >cost of 'green' power in their rates, or else permit them to reduce their >payments to the green producers, including the payments they have >been unable to make for November and December, to the amount they are >allowed to charge for this same green power. Actually, the utilities are, in a sense, lucky that they have been tied into long-term contracts with these "alternative" providers at rates like $160/MWh, because it is the non-utility, non-"alternative" providers who have been charging rates like $300/MWh. In other words, while the alternative providers were in effect being subsidized during the good times, now that times are bad, the alternative providers are the ones doing the subsidizing -- they *could* get figures like $500/MWh on the open market, but they are locked into contracts. -- In-Real-Life: Chris Torek, Berkeley Software Design Inc El Cerrito, CA, USA Domain: torek@bsdi.com +1 510 234 3167 http://claw.bsdi.com/torek/ (not always up) I report spam to abuse@.
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