🚀 go-pugleaf

RetroBBS NetNews Server

Inspired by RockSolid Light RIP Retro Guy

Article View: sci.energy
Article #2256

Re: Power execs blame gas prices and environment regs forhighelectricity costs

#2256
From: GeneK
Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2001 17:32
25 lines
3139 bytes
John Higdon wrote:
> 
> But more of a pollution problem. It is much easier to keep the
> pollution-per-KWH down with a large plant than with a smaller one. Calpine
> has a number of very small plants around the area, but they are heavy
> polluters when the amount of energy they supply is considered.

KnowItAll wrote:
> 
> The cost of environmental studies and other mandated reports and the
> site planning for a plant 1/6 the size of Calpine SJ plant and the
> Calpine SJ plant are substantial  and probably equal.  It is much
> cheaper to  design and get approval for 1 huge plant than for 6
> smaller ones.

But the larger plants have demonstrated themselves to be an enormous
political liability.  Nobody really wants a powerplant in their 
neighborhood, and it become even more onerous when people perceive 
that plant to be something being "dumped" on them by neighboring
communities that don't have them.  In bygone days, every homestead
had its own trashheap, a spot somewhere on the property where people 
buried their refuse.  Nobody thought of themselves as being put upon
for having one, because everybody had to have one and nobody was
required to accept other peoples' trash in theirs.  We need to get
back to that concept.
Technical Details
Message-ID: <3A6B1C7B.73771027@genek_hates_spammers.com>
Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!supernews.google.com!sn-xit-02!sn-xit-03!supernews.com!cyclone-sf.pbi.net!63.208.208.143!feed2.onemain.com!feed1.onemain.com!news-out.cwix.com!newsfeed.cwix.com!sjc-peer.news.verio.net!news.verio.net!sjc-read.news.verio.net.POSTED!not-for-mail
References: <3A6583AC.5D68B762@quiotix.com> <B68B2337.3100D%no-spam@RadioMonopoly.com> <3A661619.5015A82A@quiotix.com> <B68B653B.3107B%no-spam@RadioMonopoly.com> <3A662C0C.41836DB3@quiotix.com> <3A662D41.D38AF0E9@quiotix.com> <3A67C244.A2E53BA1@asphalt.com> <3A67C656.9A5D7F0F@quiotix.com> <z13a6.2006$vH6.40181@news6-win.server.ntlworld.com> <mh3a6.2877$GS1.176031@news02.optonline.net> <B68E610F.3143A%no-spam@RadioMonopoly.com> <3A69BC30.21494ADD@genek_hates_spammers.com> <B68F13FF.314CE%no-spam@RadioMonopoly.com>

Show Full Headers
Complete Article Headers
X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit
X-Google-Thread: 106ed4,60de1b05ab3a48db
X-Google-Attributes: gid106ed4,public
X-Google-Thread: 107e5d,60de1b05ab3a48db
X-Google-Attributes: gid107e5d,public
X-Google-Thread: 102fd5,60de1b05ab3a48db
X-Google-Attributes: gid102fd5,public
X-Google-Thread: f824f,60de1b05ab3a48db
X-Google-Attributes: gidf824f,public
X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2001-01-21 09:32:16 PST
Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!supernews.google.com!sn-xit-02!sn-xit-03!supernews.com!cyclone-sf.pbi.net!63.208.208.143!feed2.onemain.com!feed1.onemain.com!news-out.cwix.com!newsfeed.cwix.com!sjc-peer.news.verio.net!news.verio.net!sjc-read.news.verio.net.POSTED!not-for-mail
Message-ID: <3A6B1C7B.73771027@genek_hates_spammers.com>
From: GeneK <gene@genek_hates_spammers.com>
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win98; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
Newsgroups: sci.energy,ba.general,ca.general,ba.politics
Subject: Re: Power execs blame gas prices and environment regs 
 forhighelectricity  costs
References: <3A6583AC.5D68B762@quiotix.com> <B68B2337.3100D%no-spam@RadioMonopoly.com> <3A661619.5015A82A@quiotix.com> <B68B653B.3107B%no-spam@RadioMonopoly.com> <3A662C0C.41836DB3@quiotix.com> <3A662D41.D38AF0E9@quiotix.com> <3A67C244.A2E53BA1@asphalt.com> <3A67C656.9A5D7F0F@quiotix.com> <z13a6.2006$vH6.40181@news6-win.server.ntlworld.com> <mh3a6.2877$GS1.176031@news02.optonline.net> <B68E610F.3143A%no-spam@RadioMonopoly.com> <3A69BC30.21494ADD@genek_hates_spammers.com> <B68F13FF.314CE%no-spam@RadioMonopoly.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Lines: 25
Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2001 17:32:39 GMT
NNTP-Posting-Host: 206.184.166.50
X-Complaints-To: abuse@verio.net
X-Trace: sjc-read.news.verio.net 980098359 206.184.166.50 (Sun, 21 Jan 2001 17:32:39 GMT)
NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2001 17:32:39 GMT
Organization: Verio