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Article #2547Re: Home heating low energy nuclear reaction (LENR) reactor to cost just $500!
From: Christopher
Date: Sat, 28 Jan 2012 04:15
Date: Sat, 28 Jan 2012 04:15
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The hydrogen lost with the Defkalion system is mainly lost to leakage. In Rossi's new design the hydrogen is sealed in with the nickel, and only tiny amounts are use. If these devices work as promised, there is no way in hell the energy could possibly come from the burning of hydrogen. It must be a nuclear process. ALL power plants in the United States are plugged into the power grid. Does that mean that coal, natural gas, and fission nuclear power plants are a hoax? I understand your skepticism, but you have not looked deeply enough into LENR. On Jan 18, 9:01 am, Marvin the Martian <mar...@ontomars.org> wrote: > On Tue, 17 Jan 2012 21:43:51 -0800, Christopher wrote: > > On Jan 17, 1:41 am, CWatters <colin.watt...@NOturnersoakSPAM.plus.com> > > wrote: > > > " so that 40kW heater can draw 6.5kW of electricity. Not exactly a > > "small amount". It may also require a thermal store to avoid short > > cycling." > > --------------------------------- > > It is a small amount compared to the cost of heating with electricity > > alone or with home heating oil. The actual COP will probably be better, > > but for warranty reasons he only promises a COP of 6. I would rather > > buy a Defkalion model which are guaranteed to have a minimum COP of 25 > > and can go all the way up to 32. See Defkalion spec sheet at: > > >http://www.defkalion-energy.com/files/HyperionSpecsSheetNovember2011.pdf > > Any time you have an energy generating device you have to plug into the > wall is one hint that they're trying to bamboosel people. Do you have to > plug your gasoline engine car into the wall to start it? No. > > Another hint is that they're using hydrogen and not deuterium. If LENR > was possible with hydrogen, it would have been discovered a long time > ago. > > A third hint is that you have to replace the hydrogen tank every 6 months > is another hint: a bottle of deuterium has enough energy to last much > longer than the mechanical parts of the device. > > It appears that what the device is doing is converting the energy in the > hydrogen tank into energy by using the metal hydride process. Metals > absorbing hydrogen emit heat. It was often mistaken for cold fusion by > people who didn't understand the physics.
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