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"Bob Eld" <nsmontassoc@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:3Y8jj.34$Rg1.19@nlpi068.nbdc.sbc.com...
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>> According to the United Nations Food and Agriculture Organization
>> (FAO), global food prices rose 40% in 2007 to the highest level on
>> record!
Bullshit. Perhaps corn and oilseeds did, but retail food has barely changed here.
Aren't wheat stockpiles are low levels? Pretty stupid to make ethanol from that.
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>> See news story at:  http://news.mongabay.com/2007/1227-fao.html
I don't believe anything from the loony-left UN anymore.
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>> The rush to produce biofuels is a man made disaster, because making
>> fuel from corn, soybeans, or rapeseed takes more energy to produce
>> than it yields as fuel.  Biofuel manufacture releases large amounts of
Bullshit. Rapeseed has a huge return on inputs, corn ethanol is positive.

>> greenhouse gases, including nitrous oxide from fertilizers, which is
>> 296 times more effective at trapping heat than carbon dioxide.
>> Farming contributes more to global warming than all forms of motorized
>> land, sea, and air transportation combined, so growing vast amounts of
Bullshit. I've never heard of any study showing this.

>> crops for biofuel will heat up the earth's atmosphere faster than if
>> we only used imported Saudi Arabian oil.
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>> Most importantly, diverting agricultural resources to biofuel
>> production skyrockets the prices of food world wide. The United
>> Nations has officially stated that its charity programs can no longer
>> afford to feed the starving peoples of the world because of high food
>> costs created by biofuel production.  Jean Ziegler, the UN's Special
>> Rapporteur on the Right to Food, denounced biofuels as "a crime
>> against humanity" and called for a five-year moratorium on their
>> production.
Food given to countries that cannot feed themselves should include birth control.
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>> The heartless message the US Congress has given the low income people
>> of the world is quite clear; LET THEM EAT BIOFUELS!  Is the
>> unintentional starvation inflicted on the world by thoughtless
>> politicians any more morally excusable than the intentional starvation
>> of innocent civilians ordered by infamous dictators during times of
>> war?
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> I suspect that the rampant rise in the cost of energy, specifically
> petroleum and petroleum products including fertilizers and everyting else
> associated with oil has more to do with the rapid rise in food prices than
> biofuels does. Biofuels are small potatoes compared to the recent increases
> in oil and gasoline.
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Fertilizer has never been made from oil. Natural gas has not increased.

> It's $100 oil stupid, not ethanol that is behind most food increases and
> there is no end in sight.
Nope, it's simply higher demand and low stockpiles of grain.
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> To blame biofuels is to totally miss the biggest part of the problem.
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> If biofuels were significant, they would create a downward pressure on
> petroleum and that is clearly not happening. Biofuels are a tiny fraction to
> world wide agriculture.
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