Re: Perpetuum Mobile invented !

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From: DaveHatunen
Date: Mon, 10 Jun 1996 00:00

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In article <31BC3A96.FCE@aft.sn.no>,
Andreas Haffner  <ahaffner@aft.sn.no> wrote:
>Bob Casanova wrote:

[...]
 
>> Sorry, but a spring (or *any* mechanical energy storage system) has internal
>> losses which result in <100% efficiency.

>Well, well... I will not argue here too strong but imagine: If there was any loss in a 
>spring it would not return to its original position after being depressed. So I guess 
>the efficiencey is at least some 99.99999% or more. How long would your car engine run 
>if  the valve springs had losses?

All springs have hysteresis losses. They must: they get warm when
flexed and heat (energy) is lost that is not available for mechanical
uses. But they still return to neutral. To understand this you must
use an empirical energy/displacement plot for a real spring.



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From: hatunen@netcom.com (DaveHatunen)
Subject: Re: Perpetuum Mobile invented !
Date: 1996/06/10
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