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Article #2723Re: Carnot is dead ! Schaeffer disproves 2nd "law" !
From: Stefan Hartmann
Date: Sun, 23 Oct 1994 19:29
Date: Sun, 23 Oct 1994 19:29
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conover@max.tiac.net (Harry H Conover) writes: >Stefan Hartmann (harti@shb.contrib.de) wrote: >: Well, I just received the latest news about the research done over here >: at the Workshop for decentral energy research in Berlin, Germany. >: The physician Mr. Bernhard Schaefer and his team of researchers, together >: with the russian inventor Serogodski have successfully patented their >: new machine design, which works as a heat to mechanical energy converter. >: It does not need a "cold pole", it just converts the surounding heat into >: useful mechanical work. >: It works via "retrograde condensation" and uses a gas-mixture of 2 working >: mediums, N2 and C4H10. >: The German patent office issued the patent number: >: 42 44 016 >: Try to get it and read it. It is very interesting. >: Bernhard Schaeffer has worked over a 30 years time period on these limits >: of the 2nd thermodynamic sentence and finaly has won the battle. >: With his latest measurements he now can prove, that with the retrograde >: condensation with these gas-mixtures he can get efficiencies, which are >: far higher, than Carnot would predict. >: These measurements are done very precisely and it was invested a huge >: amount of money and time to build all the technical equipment to measure >: the effect at the right pressure and temperature. >: This invention will change the world. Now endless "free energy" is >: possible to use. You just pay for the machine and it will produce >: pollution free clean electrical energy, just by converting the heat of the >: surrounding into electrical energy. Just think about a refrigirator, which >: produces electrical energy, instead of consuming it ! >: You will soon hear more about this fantastic invention ! The future of >: mankind looks bright ! >: If you want to have more info on this whole subject, please write to the >: company which finances all the work: >: Doekowa GmbH & Co KG >: attn: Dr. Hans Wilh. Colsman >: 45241 Essen, Germany >: They will send you an information paper of all the measurements and the >: future plans. >: If you are an investor, which wants to license the machine design to build >: inside your country you are welcome to contact them as well. >: So far my latest information. Sorry, they don't yet have email access, so >: you have to write to them by snail mail. >: I will keep you updated on all the latest news about their machine design. >: Regards, Stefan. >Stuff like this is fun to speculate about, debate, and sometimes even to >flame. Lots of fun, so long as you don't invest your hard earned money >into its future and viability! > Harry C. >ps. I'm not saying that this guy has nothing, because he could have. > I am saying that it is extremely improbable that he has violated > the 2nd Law of Thermodynamics. Only availability of additional > will tell the entire story. Well, if you don't believe it, just get the patent and read it ! Just flaming here with no knowledge about the machine does not help ! BTW, Doekowa GmbH and Co KG can be reached by FAX: ++49 201 4865 211 Please send them a request via FAX to send you some info material. You will soon hear more about this wonderful new invention ! regards, Stefan.
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