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Article #2744Re: Carnot is dead ! Schaeffer disproves 2nd "law" !
From: Georg Engeli
Date: Fri, 28 Oct 1994 07:47
Date: Fri, 28 Oct 1994 07:47
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William Smythe (smythw@alum01.its.rpi.edu) wrote: : Am I the first one to notice that the post claims to violate the second law but : really violates the first law instead or have I just forgotten most of what I : learned in thermo. If I remember correctly, it is the first law that states : that you need a hot and a cold pole to convert heat to work and which lays No, I think you do not remember correctly. For the universe (or any other completely isolated system) it's: 1st law: delta E = 0 2nd law: delta S >= 0 Georg Engeli
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