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Started by Christopher
Sat, 11 Feb 2012 18:00
Famous German green guru now says renewable energy a hoax
Author: Christopher
Date: Sat, 11 Feb 2012 18:00
Date: Sat, 11 Feb 2012 18:00
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http://www.energytribune.com/articles.cfm/9784/Germanys-Godfather-of-Green-Turns-Skeptic "Vahrenholt first began to smell a rat two years ago when he was asked to review an IPCC report on renewable energy." “He found hundreds of errors. When he pointed them out, IPCC officials simply brushed them aside. Stunned, he asked himself, “Is this the way they approached the climate assessment reports? Vahrenholt decided to do some digging." ---------------------- Barack Obama would rather drill the human food supply for energy than Alaska. See THE KING OF STARVATION - BARACK OBAMA at: http://renewable.50webs.com/obama-starvation.html
Re: Famous German green guru now says renewable energy a hoax
Author: Bible Studies with Satan
Date: Sat, 11 Feb 2012 22:34
Date: Sat, 11 Feb 2012 22:34
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Christopher wrote: > http://www.energytribune.com/articles.cfm/9784/Germanys-Godfather-of-Green-Turns-Skeptic > > "Vahrenholt That person is not famous in the green world. > first began to smell a rat two years ago when he was asked > to review an IPCC report on renewable energy." > > “He found hundreds of errors. When he pointed them out, IPCC officials > simply brushed them aside. Stunned, he asked himself, “Is this the way > they approached the climate assessment reports? Vahrenholt decided to > do some digging." > ---------------------- > Barack Obama would rather drill the human food supply for energy than > Alaska. > > See THE KING OF STARVATION - BARACK OBAMA at: > > http://renewable.50webs.com/obama-starvation.html -- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K0p4_GGDbS0 Ezekiel 23:20
Re: Famous German green guru now says renewable energy a hoax
Author: Moder
Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2012 12:08
Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2012 12:08
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On Sat, 11 Feb 2012 14:34:53 -0800, Bible Studies with Satan <bible@hotmail.com> wrote: >Christopher wrote: > >> >http://www.energytribune.com/articles.cfm/9784/Germanys-Godfather-of-Green-Turns-Skeptic >> >> "Vahrenholt > >That person is not famous in the green world. Also not famous in the German green world. He is CEO of a division of RWE, the electric power company that runs all of the nuclear facilities in Germany. He is also a Chemist, and was on the BOD of Shell (or the German subsidiary, Deutsche Shell AG). Hardly a green type. He was, however, the minister of ecology in the state (city) of Hamburg. Doesn't mean he is/was green minded at all. A propoganda article if ever there was one. > > >> first began to smell a rat two years ago when he was asked >> to review an IPCC report on renewable energy." >> >> �He found hundreds of errors. When he pointed them out, IPCC officials >> simply brushed them aside. Stunned, he asked himself, �Is this the way >> they approached the climate assessment reports? Vahrenholt decided to >> do some digging." >> ---------------------- >> Barack Obama would rather drill the human food supply for energy than >> Alaska. >> >> See THE KING OF STARVATION - BARACK OBAMA at: >> >> http://renewable.50webs.com/obama-starvation.html
Re: Famous German green guru now says renewable energy a hoax
Author: SilentOtto
Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2012 13:23
Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2012 13:23
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On Feb 12, 7:08 am, "Moder@tor" <Mo...@tor.com> wrote: > On Sat, 11 Feb 2012 14:34:53 -0800, Bible Studies with Satan <bi...@hotmail.com> > wrote: > > >Christopher wrote: > > >http://www.energytribune.com/articles.cfm/9784/Germanys-Godfather-of-... > > >> "Vahrenholt > > >That person is not famous in the green world. > > Also not famous in the German green world. He is CEO of a division of RWE, the > electric power company that runs all of the nuclear facilities in Germany. He is > also a Chemist, and was on the BOD of Shell (or the German subsidiary, Deutsche > Shell AG). Hardly a green type. He was, however, the minister of ecology in the > state (city) of Hamburg. Doesn't mean he is/was green minded at all. A > propoganda article if ever there was one. > > > > > > > > > > >> first began to smell a rat two years ago when he was asked > >> to review an IPCC report on renewable energy." > > >> “He found hundreds of errors. When he pointed them out, IPCC officials > >> simply brushed them aside. Stunned, he asked himself, “Is this the way > >> they approached the climate assessment reports? Vahrenholt decided to > >> do some digging." > >> ---------------------- > >> Barack Obama would rather drill the human food supply for energy than > >> Alaska. > > >> See THE KING OF STARVATION - BARACK OBAMA at: > > >>http://renewable.50webs.com/obama-starvation.html Yep. RWE npower: Npower operates a number of coal, natural gas, oil-fired and renewable energy power stations across the UK, with coal and gas accounting for 81% of their output as of 2005.[11] Npower supplies gas and electricity to 6.5million residential and business customers in the UK. Its energy services business, npower hometeam, provides installation, servicing and repair of boilers and central heating systems. npower also supplies gas and electricity to customers of the Utility Warehouse Discount Club. The company's main offices are in Swindon, Wiltshire with other offices in the Midlands, Yorkshire and North East. npower has around 12,000 employees across its departments and in 2010 made an operating result of £233 million. The company also owns Aberthaw Power Station in the Vale of Glamorgan in south Wales, Didcot Power Station in Oxfordshire, Tilbury Power Station in Essex, Little Barford Power Station near St Neots, Great Yarmouth Power Station, Fawley Power Station, Tilbury Power Station and Littlebrook Power Station near Dartford in Kent. ----- So, we've got the CEO of a polluting power company calling climate change a hoax. When has that ever happened before?
Re: Famous German green guru now says renewable energy a hoax
Author: Christopher
Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2012 06:04
Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2012 06:04
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The renewable energy scam is collapsing all over the world. Central planning of the productive sector of any economy is bad. Mao and Pol Pot did it and killed millions through starvation. Bush and Obama did it as well and also killed millions all over the world by raising global food prices. Our brain dead television media does not report that fact, but it is absolutely true. Renewable energy schemes = economic collapse and mass starvation. Hydroelectric power in the only renewable energy source appropriate for large scale energy production. Geothermal is OK, but not renewable because geothermal wells eventually run cold. See: "Greek Debt Crisis Exposes Green Energy Subsidies" http://www.energytribune.com/articles.cfm/9791/Greek-Debt-Crisis-Exposes-Green-Energy-Subsidies THE RENEWABLE ENERGY DISASTER http://renewable.50webs.com/ THE KING OF STARVATION - BARACK OBAMA http://renewable.50webs.com/obama-starvation.html THE STARVATION HALL OF SHAME http://renewable.50webs.com/Starvation-Hall-of-Shame.html DR. STEVEN CHU - MAD SCIENTIST http://renewable.50webs.com/Steven_Chu.html THE FUSION REVOLUTION http://renewable.50webs.com/fusion.html
Re: Famous German green guru now says renewable energy a hoax
Author: Bible Studies with Satan
Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2012 18:49
Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2012 18:49
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Christopher wrote: > The renewable energy scam is collapsing all over the world. No it isn't. Don't be a chump. > Central > planning of the productive sector of any economy is bad. Mao and Pol > Pot did it and killed millions through starvation. Bush and Obama did > it as well and also killed millions all over the world by raising > global food prices. Our brain dead television media does not report > that fact, but it is absolutely true. Renewable energy schemes = > economic collapse and mass starvation. Hydroelectric power in the > only renewable energy source appropriate for large scale energy > production. Geothermal is OK, but not renewable because geothermal > wells eventually run cold. > > See: > > "Greek Debt Crisis Exposes Green Energy Subsidies" > > http://www.energytribune.com/articles.cfm/9791/Greek-Debt-Crisis-Exposes-Green-Energy-Subsidies > > > THE RENEWABLE ENERGY DISASTER > http://renewable.50webs.com/ > > THE KING OF STARVATION - BARACK OBAMA > http://renewable.50webs.com/obama-starvation.html > > THE STARVATION HALL OF SHAME > http://renewable.50webs.com/Starvation-Hall-of-Shame.html > > DR. STEVEN CHU - MAD SCIENTIST > http://renewable.50webs.com/Steven_Chu.html > > THE FUSION REVOLUTION > http://renewable.50webs.com/fusion.html -- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K0p4_GGDbS0 Ezekiel 23:20
Re: Famous German green guru now says renewable energy a hoax
Author: Christopher
Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2012 04:48
Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2012 04:48
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Other than hydroelectric power, renewable energy schemes cannot help us in any positive way for large scale energy production. Scams, hoaxes, and bad investments are always exposed in the end. Wind and solar have failed in Europe and are failing in the USA. Over time even the majority will wake up and demand real energy sources that are affordable and reliable. Subsidies are being cut right now. Mandates will be abolished soon. The mindless days of the great energy snake oil bonanza are coming to an end. Those silly pigs will not fly for long. As far as man made global warning is concerned, those who are 100% sure it is a disaster and those who are 100% convinced it does not exist are engaging in hubris. There are too many unknown variables to know for certain one way or another, and there is no real scientific consensus on the subject. We need to cut fossil fuel use because oil and coal are too expensive. There are far better carbon free alternatives, but windmills, solar panels, and biofuels will only help collapse human civilization even faster. Renewable energy schemes = economic collapse, increased environmental destruction, and mass starvation. You cannot collect weak and diffuse energy from the sun and the wind without making a big mess on Earth. The weaker and less concentrated the energy source, the bigger the monster machine you need to collect it. We need a smaller ecological human footprint on Earth, not a bigger one. THE FUSION REVOLUTION http://renewable.50webs.com/fusion.html ----------------------------------------------------- On Feb 13, 10:49 am, Bible Studies with Satan <bi...@hotmail.com> wrote: > Christopher wrote: > > The renewable energy scam is collapsing all over the world. > > No it isn't. Don't be a chump. > > > > > > > Central > > planning of the productive sector of any economy is bad. Mao and Pol > > Pot did it and killed millions through starvation. Bush and Obama did > > it as well and also killed millions all over the world by raising > > global food prices. Our brain dead television media does not report > > that fact, but it is absolutely true. Renewable energy schemes = > > economic collapse and mass starvation. Hydroelectric power in the > > only renewable energy source appropriate for large scale energy > > production. Geothermal is OK, but not renewable because geothermal > > wells eventually run cold. > > > See: > > > "Greek Debt Crisis Exposes Green Energy Subsidies" > > http://www.energytribune.com/articles.cfm/9791/Greek-Debt-Crisis-Expo... > > > > > > > > > THE RENEWABLE ENERGY DISASTER > >http://renewable.50webs.com/ > > > THE KING OF STARVATION - BARACK OBAMA > >http://renewable.50webs.com/obama-starvation.html > > > THE STARVATION HALL OF SHAME > >http://renewable.50webs.com/Starvation-Hall-of-Shame.html > > > DR. STEVEN CHU - MAD SCIENTIST > >http://renewable.50webs.com/Steven_Chu.html > > > THE FUSION REVOLUTION > >http://renewable.50webs.com/fusion.html > > --http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K0p4_GGDbS0 > Ezekiel 23:20- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text -
Re: Famous German green guru now says renewable energy a hoax
Author: Moder
Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2012 09:00
Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2012 09:00
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On Mon, 13 Feb 2012 20:48:37 -0800 (PST), Christopher <calderconnection@gmail.com> wrote: >Other than hydroelectric power, renewable energy schemes cannot help >us in any positive way for large scale energy production. The future won't have anything to do with large scale energy production. That is where your logic is flawed.
Re: Famous German green guru now says renewable energy a hoax
Author: slide trombone
Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2012 15:39
Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2012 15:39
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On Feb 12, 4:08 am, "Moder@tor" <Mo...@tor.com> wrote: > On Sat, 11 Feb 2012 14:34:53 -0800, Bible Studies with Satan <bi...@hotmail.com> > wrote: > > >Christopher wrote: > > >http://www.energytribune.com/articles.cfm/9784/Germanys-Godfather-of-... > > >> "Vahrenholt > > >That person is not famous in the green world. > > Also not famous in the German green world. He is CEO of a division of RWE, the > electric power company that runs all of the nuclear facilities in Germany. He is > also a Chemist, and was on the BOD of Shell (or the German subsidiary, Deutsche > Shell AG). Hardly a green type. He was, however, the minister of ecology in the > state (city) of Hamburg. Doesn't mean he is/was green minded at all. A > propoganda article if ever there was one. > He is also a prominent Social Democrat who lead the charge to green energy. Seems he is one who has seen both sides and made a reasoned judgement.
Re: Famous German green guru now says renewable energy a hoax
Author: Moder
Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2012 16:51
Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2012 16:51
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On Wed, 15 Feb 2012 07:39:06 -0800 (PST), slide trombone <boomer_the_cat@my-deja.com> wrote: >On Feb 12, 4:08�am, "Moder@tor" <Mo...@tor.com> wrote: >> On Sat, 11 Feb 2012 14:34:53 -0800, Bible Studies with Satan <bi...@hotmail.com> >> wrote: >> >> >Christopher wrote: >> >> >http://www.energytribune.com/articles.cfm/9784/Germanys-Godfather-of-... >> >> >> "Vahrenholt >> >> >That person is not famous in the green world. >> >> Also not famous in the German green world. He is CEO of a division of RWE, the >> electric power company that runs all of the nuclear facilities in Germany. He is >> also a Chemist, and was on the BOD of Shell (or the German subsidiary, Deutsche >> Shell AG). Hardly a green type. He was, however, the minister of ecology in the >> state (city) of Hamburg. Doesn't mean he is/was green minded at all. A >> propoganda article if ever there was one. >> > > >He is also a prominent Social Democrat who lead the charge to green >energy. Seems he is one who has seen both sides and made a reasoned >judgement. Social Dems(SPD) in Germany aren't necessarily Lefties. There is a Green Party there that has a voice in politics (compared to our green party). IF he was at all Green, he'd be a member.
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