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10 total messages Started by Christopher Sat, 11 Feb 2012 18:00
Famous German green guru now says renewable energy a hoax
#2542
Author: Christopher
Date: Sat, 11 Feb 2012 18:00
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http://www.energytribune.com/articles.cfm/9784/Germanys-Godfather-of-Green-Turns-Skeptic

"Vahrenholt first began to smell a rat two years ago when he was asked
to review an IPCC report on renewable energy."

“He found hundreds of errors. When he pointed them out, IPCC officials
simply brushed them aside. Stunned, he asked himself, “Is this the way
they approached the climate assessment reports? Vahrenholt decided to
do some digging."
----------------------
Barack Obama would rather drill the human food supply for energy than
Alaska.

See THE KING OF STARVATION - BARACK OBAMA at:

http://renewable.50webs.com/obama-starvation.html
Re: Famous German green guru now says renewable energy a hoax
#2543
Author: Bible Studies with Satan
Date: Sat, 11 Feb 2012 22:34
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Christopher wrote:

>
http://www.energytribune.com/articles.cfm/9784/Germanys-Godfather-of-Green-Turns-Skeptic
> 
> "Vahrenholt 

That person is not famous in the green world.


> first began to smell a rat two years ago when he was asked 
> to review an IPCC report on renewable energy."
> 
> “He found hundreds of errors. When he pointed them out, IPCC officials
> simply brushed them aside. Stunned, he asked himself, “Is this the way
> they approached the climate assessment reports? Vahrenholt decided to
> do some digging."
> ----------------------
> Barack Obama would rather drill the human food supply for energy than
> Alaska.
> 
> See THE KING OF STARVATION - BARACK OBAMA at:
> 
> http://renewable.50webs.com/obama-starvation.html

-- 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K0p4_GGDbS0
Ezekiel 23:20
Re: Famous German green guru now says renewable energy a hoax
#2544
Author: Moder
Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2012 12:08
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On Sat, 11 Feb 2012 14:34:53 -0800, Bible Studies with Satan <bible@hotmail.com>
wrote:

>Christopher wrote:
>
>>
>http://www.energytribune.com/articles.cfm/9784/Germanys-Godfather-of-Green-Turns-Skeptic
>> 
>> "Vahrenholt 
>
>That person is not famous in the green world.

Also not famous in the German green world. He is CEO of a division of RWE, the
electric power company that runs all of the nuclear facilities in Germany. He is
also a Chemist, and was on the BOD of Shell (or the German subsidiary, Deutsche
Shell AG). Hardly a green type. He was, however, the minister of ecology in the
state (city) of Hamburg. Doesn't mean he is/was green minded at all. A
propoganda article if ever there was one.

>
>
>> first began to smell a rat two years ago when he was asked 
>> to review an IPCC report on renewable energy."
>> 
>> �He found hundreds of errors. When he pointed them out, IPCC officials
>> simply brushed them aside. Stunned, he asked himself, �Is this the way
>> they approached the climate assessment reports? Vahrenholt decided to
>> do some digging."
>> ----------------------
>> Barack Obama would rather drill the human food supply for energy than
>> Alaska.
>> 
>> See THE KING OF STARVATION - BARACK OBAMA at:
>> 
>> http://renewable.50webs.com/obama-starvation.html
Re: Famous German green guru now says renewable energy a hoax
#2545
Author: SilentOtto
Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2012 13:23
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On Feb 12, 7:08 am, "Moder@tor" <Mo...@tor.com> wrote:
> On Sat, 11 Feb 2012 14:34:53 -0800, Bible Studies with Satan <bi...@hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> >Christopher wrote:
>
> >http://www.energytribune.com/articles.cfm/9784/Germanys-Godfather-of-...
>
> >> "Vahrenholt
>
> >That person is not famous in the green world.
>
> Also not famous in the German green world. He is CEO of a division of RWE, the
> electric power company that runs all of the nuclear facilities in Germany. He is
> also a Chemist, and was on the BOD of Shell (or the German subsidiary, Deutsche
> Shell AG). Hardly a green type. He was, however, the minister of ecology in the
> state (city) of Hamburg. Doesn't mean he is/was green minded at all. A
> propoganda article if ever there was one.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> >> first began to smell a rat two years ago when he was asked
> >> to review an IPCC report on renewable energy."
>
> >> “He found hundreds of errors. When he pointed them out, IPCC officials
> >> simply brushed them aside. Stunned, he asked himself, “Is this the way
> >> they approached the climate assessment reports? Vahrenholt decided to
> >> do some digging."
> >> ----------------------
> >> Barack Obama would rather drill the human food supply for energy than
> >> Alaska.
>
> >> See THE KING OF STARVATION - BARACK OBAMA at:
>
> >>http://renewable.50webs.com/obama-starvation.html

Yep.

RWE npower:

Npower operates a number of coal, natural gas, oil-fired and renewable
energy power stations across the UK, with coal and gas accounting for
81% of their output as of 2005.[11]

Npower supplies gas and electricity to 6.5million residential and
business customers in the UK. Its energy services business, npower
hometeam, provides installation, servicing and repair of boilers and
central heating systems. npower also supplies gas and electricity to
customers of the Utility Warehouse Discount Club.

The company's main offices are in Swindon, Wiltshire with other
offices in the Midlands, Yorkshire and North East. npower has around
12,000 employees across its departments and in 2010 made an operating
result of £233 million.

The company also owns Aberthaw Power Station in the Vale of Glamorgan
in south Wales, Didcot Power Station in Oxfordshire, Tilbury Power
Station in Essex, Little Barford Power Station near St Neots, Great
Yarmouth Power Station, Fawley Power Station, Tilbury Power Station
and Littlebrook Power Station near Dartford in Kent.

-----

So, we've got the CEO of a polluting power company calling climate
change a hoax.

When has that ever happened before?
Re: Famous German green guru now says renewable energy a hoax
#2541
Author: Christopher
Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2012 06:04
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The renewable energy scam is collapsing all over the world.  Central
planning of the productive sector of any economy is bad.  Mao and Pol
Pot did it and killed millions through starvation.  Bush and Obama did
it as well and also killed millions all over the world by raising
global food prices.  Our brain dead television media does not report
that fact, but it is absolutely true.  Renewable energy schemes =
economic collapse and mass starvation.  Hydroelectric power in the
only renewable energy source appropriate for large scale energy
production.  Geothermal is OK, but not renewable because geothermal
wells eventually run cold.

See:

"Greek Debt Crisis Exposes Green Energy Subsidies"

http://www.energytribune.com/articles.cfm/9791/Greek-Debt-Crisis-Exposes-Green-Energy-Subsidies


THE RENEWABLE ENERGY DISASTER
http://renewable.50webs.com/

THE KING OF STARVATION - BARACK OBAMA
http://renewable.50webs.com/obama-starvation.html

THE STARVATION HALL OF SHAME
http://renewable.50webs.com/Starvation-Hall-of-Shame.html

DR. STEVEN CHU - MAD SCIENTIST
http://renewable.50webs.com/Steven_Chu.html

THE FUSION REVOLUTION
http://renewable.50webs.com/fusion.html
Re: Famous German green guru now says renewable energy a hoax
#2539
Author: Bible Studies with Satan
Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2012 18:49
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Christopher wrote:

> The renewable energy scam is collapsing all over the world.  

No it isn't. Don't be a chump.

> Central 
> planning of the productive sector of any economy is bad.  Mao and Pol
> Pot did it and killed millions through starvation.  Bush and Obama did
> it as well and also killed millions all over the world by raising
> global food prices.  Our brain dead television media does not report
> that fact, but it is absolutely true.  Renewable energy schemes =
> economic collapse and mass starvation.  Hydroelectric power in the
> only renewable energy source appropriate for large scale energy
> production.  Geothermal is OK, but not renewable because geothermal
> wells eventually run cold.
> 
> See:
> 
> "Greek Debt Crisis Exposes Green Energy Subsidies"
> 
>
http://www.energytribune.com/articles.cfm/9791/Greek-Debt-Crisis-Exposes-Green-Energy-Subsidies
> 
> 
> THE RENEWABLE ENERGY DISASTER
> http://renewable.50webs.com/
> 
> THE KING OF STARVATION - BARACK OBAMA
> http://renewable.50webs.com/obama-starvation.html
> 
> THE STARVATION HALL OF SHAME
> http://renewable.50webs.com/Starvation-Hall-of-Shame.html
> 
> DR. STEVEN CHU - MAD SCIENTIST
> http://renewable.50webs.com/Steven_Chu.html
> 
> THE FUSION REVOLUTION
> http://renewable.50webs.com/fusion.html

-- 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K0p4_GGDbS0
Ezekiel 23:20
Re: Famous German green guru now says renewable energy a hoax
#2540
Author: Christopher
Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2012 04:48
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Other than hydroelectric power, renewable energy schemes cannot help
us in any positive way for large scale energy production.  Scams,
hoaxes, and bad investments are always exposed in the end.  Wind and
solar have failed in Europe and are failing in the USA.  Over time
even the majority will wake up and demand real energy sources that are
affordable and reliable.  Subsidies are being cut right now.  Mandates
will be abolished soon.  The mindless days of the great energy snake
oil bonanza are coming to an end.  Those silly pigs will not fly for
long.

As far as man made global warning is concerned, those who are 100%
sure it is a disaster and those who are 100% convinced it does not
exist are engaging in hubris. There are too many unknown variables to
know for certain one way or another, and there is no real scientific
consensus on the subject.  We need to cut fossil fuel use because oil
and coal are too expensive.  There are far better carbon free
alternatives, but windmills, solar panels, and biofuels will only help
collapse human civilization even faster.  Renewable energy schemes =
economic collapse, increased environmental destruction, and mass
starvation.  You cannot collect weak and diffuse energy from the sun
and the wind without making a big mess on Earth.  The weaker and less
concentrated the energy source, the bigger the monster machine you
need to collect it.  We need a smaller ecological human footprint on
Earth, not a bigger one.

THE FUSION REVOLUTION
http://renewable.50webs.com/fusion.html

-----------------------------------------------------

On Feb 13, 10:49 am, Bible Studies with Satan <bi...@hotmail.com>
wrote:
> Christopher wrote:
> > The renewable energy scam is collapsing all over the world.
>
> No it isn't. Don't be a chump.
>
>
>
>
>
> > Central
> > planning of the productive sector of any economy is bad.  Mao and Pol
> > Pot did it and killed millions through starvation.  Bush and Obama did
> > it as well and also killed millions all over the world by raising
> > global food prices.  Our brain dead television media does not report
> > that fact, but it is absolutely true.  Renewable energy schemes =
> > economic collapse and mass starvation.  Hydroelectric power in the
> > only renewable energy source appropriate for large scale energy
> > production.  Geothermal is OK, but not renewable because geothermal
> > wells eventually run cold.
>
> > See:
>
> > "Greek Debt Crisis Exposes Green Energy Subsidies"
>
> http://www.energytribune.com/articles.cfm/9791/Greek-Debt-Crisis-Expo...
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > THE RENEWABLE ENERGY DISASTER
> >http://renewable.50webs.com/
>
> > THE KING OF STARVATION - BARACK OBAMA
> >http://renewable.50webs.com/obama-starvation.html
>
> > THE STARVATION HALL OF SHAME
> >http://renewable.50webs.com/Starvation-Hall-of-Shame.html
>
> > DR. STEVEN CHU - MAD SCIENTIST
> >http://renewable.50webs.com/Steven_Chu.html
>
> > THE FUSION REVOLUTION
> >http://renewable.50webs.com/fusion.html
>
> --http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K0p4_GGDbS0
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Re: Famous German green guru now says renewable energy a hoax
#2538
Author: Moder
Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2012 09:00
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On Mon, 13 Feb 2012 20:48:37 -0800 (PST), Christopher
<calderconnection@gmail.com> wrote:

>Other than hydroelectric power, renewable energy schemes cannot help
>us in any positive way for large scale energy production. 

The future won't have anything to do with large scale energy production. That is
where your logic is flawed.
Re: Famous German green guru now says renewable energy a hoax
#2536
Author: slide trombone
Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2012 15:39
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On Feb 12, 4:08 am, "Moder@tor" <Mo...@tor.com> wrote:
> On Sat, 11 Feb 2012 14:34:53 -0800, Bible Studies with Satan <bi...@hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> >Christopher wrote:
>
> >http://www.energytribune.com/articles.cfm/9784/Germanys-Godfather-of-...
>
> >> "Vahrenholt
>
> >That person is not famous in the green world.
>
> Also not famous in the German green world. He is CEO of a division of RWE, the
> electric power company that runs all of the nuclear facilities in Germany. He is
> also a Chemist, and was on the BOD of Shell (or the German subsidiary, Deutsche
> Shell AG). Hardly a green type. He was, however, the minister of ecology in the
> state (city) of Hamburg. Doesn't mean he is/was green minded at all. A
> propoganda article if ever there was one.
>


He is also a prominent Social Democrat who lead the charge to green
energy.   Seems he is one who has seen both sides and made a reasoned
judgement.
Re: Famous German green guru now says renewable energy a hoax
#2537
Author: Moder
Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2012 16:51
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On Wed, 15 Feb 2012 07:39:06 -0800 (PST), slide trombone
<boomer_the_cat@my-deja.com> wrote:

>On Feb 12, 4:08�am, "Moder@tor" <Mo...@tor.com> wrote:
>> On Sat, 11 Feb 2012 14:34:53 -0800, Bible Studies with Satan <bi...@hotmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >Christopher wrote:
>>
>> >http://www.energytribune.com/articles.cfm/9784/Germanys-Godfather-of-...
>>
>> >> "Vahrenholt
>>
>> >That person is not famous in the green world.
>>
>> Also not famous in the German green world. He is CEO of a division of RWE, the
>> electric power company that runs all of the nuclear facilities in Germany. He is
>> also a Chemist, and was on the BOD of Shell (or the German subsidiary, Deutsche
>> Shell AG). Hardly a green type. He was, however, the minister of ecology in the
>> state (city) of Hamburg. Doesn't mean he is/was green minded at all. A
>> propoganda article if ever there was one.
>>
>
>
>He is also a prominent Social Democrat who lead the charge to green
>energy.   Seems he is one who has seen both sides and made a reasoned
>judgement.

Social Dems(SPD) in Germany aren't necessarily Lefties. There is a Green Party
there that has a voice in politics (compared to our green party). IF he was at
all Green, he'd be a member.
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