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Started by calderhome
Tue, 15 Jan 2008 19:45
UN says global food prices up 40% in 2007 alone, in part due to biofuel production!
Author: calderhome
Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2008 19:45
Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2008 19:45
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According to the United Nations Food and Agriculture Organization (FAO), global food prices rose 40% in 2007 to the highest level on record! See news story at: http://news.mongabay.com/2007/1227-fao.html The rush to produce biofuels is a man made disaster, because making fuel from corn, soybeans, or rapeseed takes more energy to produce than it yields as fuel. Biofuel manufacture releases large amounts of greenhouse gases, including nitrous oxide from fertilizers, which is 296 times more effective at trapping heat than carbon dioxide. Farming contributes more to global warming than all forms of motorized land, sea, and air transportation combined, so growing vast amounts of crops for biofuel will heat up the earth's atmosphere faster than if we only used imported Saudi Arabian oil. Most importantly, diverting agricultural resources to biofuel production skyrockets the prices of food world wide. The United Nations has officially stated that its charity programs can no longer afford to feed the starving peoples of the world because of high food costs created by biofuel production. Jean Ziegler, the UN's Special Rapporteur on the Right to Food, denounced biofuels as "a crime against humanity" and called for a five-year moratorium on their production. The heartless message the US Congress has given the low income people of the world is quite clear; LET THEM EAT BIOFUELS! Is the unintentional starvation inflicted on the world by thoughtless politicians any more morally excusable than the intentional starvation of innocent civilians ordered by infamous dictators during times of war? See "The biofuel hoax is causing a world food crisis!" at: http://home.att.net/~meditation/bio-fuel-hoax.html Christopher Calder
Re: UN says global food prices up 40% in 2007 alone, in part due to biofuel production!
Author: Lobby Dosser
Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2008 06:27
Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2008 06:27
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"gatt" <admin@godhateskansas.org> wrote: > > >>> The heartless message the US Congress has given the low income >>> people of the world is quite clear; LET THEM EAT BIOFUELS! Is the >>> unintentional starvation inflicted on the world by thoughtless >>> politicians any more morally excusable than the intentional >>> starvation of innocent civilians ordered by infamous dictators >>> during times of war? > > > HAHAHAHAHAAAAAHAHAHAAAA!!! Goddamn, that's spectacularly clueless. > > By the way, get with the times > http://www.physorg.com/news119544873.html > > GM to make biofuel out of garbage > -c > > > Almost Any kind of garbage. Using less than a gallon of water per gallon of fuel. And producing 7.7 X Input Energy.
Re: UN says global food prices up 40% in 2007 alone, in part due to biofuel production!
Author: Lobby Dosser
Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2008 06:31
Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2008 06:31
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"blues@steel.yard" <Steelyard> wrote: > On Tue, 15 Jan 2008 15:02:16 -0800, "gatt" <admin@godhateskansas.org> > wrote: > >> >>"Eric Gisin" <gisin@uniserve.com> wrote in message >>news:13oqdkg88ptac7e@corp.supernews.com... >>> >>> Food given to countries that cannot feed themselves should include >>> birth control. >> >>Smartest thing I've heard all day! >> > Ditto. > Tritto
Re: UN says global food prices up 40% in 2007 alone, in part due to biofuel production!
Author: blues
Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2008 06:33
Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2008 06:33
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On Wed, 16 Jan 2008 06:27:22 GMT, Lobby Dosser <lobby.dosser.mapson@verizon.net> wrote: >"gatt" <admin@godhateskansas.org> wrote: > >> >> >>>> The heartless message the US Congress has given the low income >>>> people of the world is quite clear; LET THEM EAT BIOFUELS! Is the >>>> unintentional starvation inflicted on the world by thoughtless >>>> politicians any more morally excusable than the intentional >>>> starvation of innocent civilians ordered by infamous dictators >>>> during times of war? >> >> >> HAHAHAHAHAAAAAHAHAHAAAA!!! Goddamn, that's spectacularly clueless. >> >> By the way, get with the times >> http://www.physorg.com/news119544873.html >> >> GM to make biofuel out of garbage >> -c >> >> >> > >Almost Any kind of garbage. Using less than a gallon of water per gallon >of fuel. And producing 7.7 X Input Energy. Brits mastered this biomass stuff a decade or more back....
Re: UN says global food prices up 40% in 2007 alone, in part due to biofuel production!
Author: blues
Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2008 06:36
Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2008 06:36
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On Wed, 16 Jan 2008 06:31:43 GMT, Lobby Dosser <lobby.dosser.mapson@verizon.net> wrote: >"blues@steel.yard" <Steelyard> wrote: > >> On Tue, 15 Jan 2008 15:02:16 -0800, "gatt" <admin@godhateskansas.org> >> wrote: >> >>> >>>"Eric Gisin" <gisin@uniserve.com> wrote in message >>>news:13oqdkg88ptac7e@corp.supernews.com... >>>> >>>> Food given to countries that cannot feed themselves should include >>>> birth control. >>> >>>Smartest thing I've heard all day! >>> >> Ditto. >> > >Tritto Quattro?
Re: UN says global food prices up 40% in 2007 alone, in part due to biofuel production!
Author: Lobby Dosser
Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2008 07:00
Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2008 07:00
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"blues@steel.yard" <Steelyard> wrote: > On Wed, 16 Jan 2008 06:31:43 GMT, Lobby Dosser > <lobby.dosser.mapson@verizon.net> wrote: > >>"blues@steel.yard" <Steelyard> wrote: >> >>> On Tue, 15 Jan 2008 15:02:16 -0800, "gatt" >>> <admin@godhateskansas.org> wrote: >>> >>>> >>>>"Eric Gisin" <gisin@uniserve.com> wrote in message >>>>news:13oqdkg88ptac7e@corp.supernews.com... >>>>> >>>>> Food given to countries that cannot feed themselves should include >>>>> birth control. >>>> >>>>Smartest thing I've heard all day! >>>> >>> Ditto. >>> >> >>Tritto > > Quattro? > Well, I've got a friend and his name is Quatro All his friends call him Four And he says if they keep it up Then they're never gonna know the score No, they're never gonna know the score
Re: UN says global food prices up 40% in 2007 alone, in part due to biofuel production!
Author: Erdeemal
Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2008 13:27
Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2008 13:27
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calderhome@yahoo.com wrote: We use biofuel because oil is price is high. The one who sell oil are the *first* responsable for this. > According to the United Nations Food and Agriculture Organization > (FAO), global food prices rose 40% in 2007 to the highest level on > record! > > See news story at: http://news.mongabay.com/2007/1227-fao.html > > The rush to produce biofuels is a man made disaster, because making > fuel from corn, soybeans, or rapeseed takes more energy to produce > than it yields as fuel. Biofuel manufacture releases large amounts of > greenhouse gases, including nitrous oxide from fertilizers, which is > 296 times more effective at trapping heat than carbon dioxide. > Farming contributes more to global warming than all forms of motorized > land, sea, and air transportation combined, so growing vast amounts of > crops for biofuel will heat up the earth's atmosphere faster than if > we only used imported Saudi Arabian oil. > > Most importantly, diverting agricultural resources to biofuel > production skyrockets the prices of food world wide. The United > Nations has officially stated that its charity programs can no longer > afford to feed the starving peoples of the world because of high food > costs created by biofuel production. Jean Ziegler, the UN's Special > Rapporteur on the Right to Food, denounced biofuels as "a crime > against humanity" and called for a five-year moratorium on their > production. > > The heartless message the US Congress has given the low income people > of the world is quite clear; LET THEM EAT BIOFUELS! Is the > unintentional starvation inflicted on the world by thoughtless > politicians any more morally excusable than the intentional starvation > of innocent civilians ordered by infamous dictators during times of > war? > > See "The biofuel hoax is causing a world food crisis!" at: > http://home.att.net/~meditation/bio-fuel-hoax.html > > Christopher Calder
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