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Article #115Re: Can I weld osmium ? ? ? ?
From: reqluq
Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2004 11:30
Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2004 11:30
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"Peter Fairbrother" <zenadsl6186@zen.co.uk> wrote in message news:BDC22F41.76DEB%zenadsl6186@zen.co.uk... > Hans-Marc Olsen wrote: > >> Or will I create osmiumtetraoxide and poison myself? > > osmium tetroxide > > I TIG weld small parts in a glove cabinet filled with argon. The argon > recirculates through the torch by a pump and filter. I do it to save > buying > argon. > > I don't know if you can weld osmium, sorry, but if you do the above you > won't make osmium tetroxide - no oxygen. > > btw, Osmium metal forms OsO4 just in the air, it doesn't need to get hot > or > anything. Osmium metal is not very useful because of this, and it smells > unmistakeably unpleasant. Osmium alloys can be useful, but not pure > osmium. > > > > OsO4 is nasty stuff, but it stinks and burns the eyes far too much to kill > you, unless you have no eyes and have been snorting too much cocaine and > can't smell. It burns the lungs too. > > If you can smell, even a bit, or have eyeballs, you will leave any room > with > OsO4 in it _far_ more rapidly than you will get fatally poisoned. > > When there was a scare about OsO4 I worked out that in order to kill > people > you would need to spend about $20,000 per person, and keep them for 12 > hours > in an atmoshere which would blind them in less than a minute. > > It's fairly similar to sulphur dioxide in it's both its toxic exposure > levels and toxic effects. As far as we know it is not a cumulative poison > (except in that it can burn tissue that has already been burned), or a > carcinogen, or a teratogen, or a mutagen, and it does not cause heavy > metal > poisoning. > > > But we don't know everything, and my advice would be to keep well away > from > both osmium and osmium tetroxide unless you hava a real need to use them. > > > -- > Peter Fairbrother what he said..hehe sorry 'bout the other posts but I couldn't resist..feeling in a mood I guess :-)
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