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Article #13Re: Wanted: Safety Engineers
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Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1999 00:00
Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1999 00:00
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First, Stephen you are looking for Software System Safety Engineers for the design, verification and validation of hardware and software systems used in monitor and/or control of hazardous functions. These are a rare breed in the fully developed sense that Mr. Keller is alluding to (SIL is from IEC 1508 and other Euro standards for Programmable Electronic Systems (PES)). There are several who do dally in the software, and some who dally in the hardware. But if you vary the hardware "chips" or the software "language" then you'll find that individual back at the same starting point as another. Expertise is quite narrow (due to the learned technology) in most. For example, Mr. Keller states that he prefers Ada but does not caveat under what conditions. I am presently on still another Ada project in which there are single point failures caused by how that language is used... I personally have trouble with the myriad of PLAs, EPLDs, FPGAs and other "circuits" while I seem to have conquered safety in VHDL as a language. As to where you will find them...there are a few to refer to and others growing up in the business, but you will always find only a few dozen, and then you need a re-trainable one so that they can change hardawre and/or software (see above) at least once a year... cheers, and yes I did get you email to arrange those standards you've asked for, but I haven't had time to get it finished. Saturday I had to put a horse down for fatal colic and the day was shot. In article <36C9E13C.2EDE3D0@iai.fzk.de>, "Hubert B. Keller" <keller@iai.fzk.de> wrote: > Stephen Pickett wrote: > > > We are looking for a few good safety engineers, but we have had > > difficulty in contacting them. WHERE ARE YOU HIDING? > > > > We design and build fail-safe > > -- failure tolerant (HW/SW) > > > The safety engineers involved in product design, ideally, would have > > software (predominately C) > > -- really? at which SIL level - zero, one? for two or above, i would pref= > er > Ada
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X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: fac55,6e73d435c46e5efe X-Google-Attributes: gidfac55,public X-Google-Thread: fd33a,6e73d435c46e5efe X-Google-Attributes: gidfd33a,public X-Google-Thread: 10e4d1,6e73d435c46e5efe X-Google-Attributes: gid10e4d1,public X-Google-Thread: f43e6,6e73d435c46e5efe X-Google-Attributes: gidf43e6,public From: arch6@mail.inlink.com (arch) Subject: Re: Wanted: Safety Engineers Date: 1999/02/16 Message-ID: <arch6-1602991754200001@iits03100.inlink.com> X-Deja-AN: 445128366 Distribution: world References: <36C84A3E.2033811A@att.net> <36C9E13C.2EDE3D0@iai.fzk.de> X-Complaints-To: usenet@news.inlink.com X-Trace: news1.inlink.com 919209091 7703 209.135.142.100 (16 Feb 1999 23:51:31 GMT) Organization: McK&A NNTP-Posting-Date: 16 Feb 1999 23:51:31 GMT Newsgroups: sci.engr.safety,sci.engr.electrical.compliance,ieee.general,comp.software-eng