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Currently the nuclear industry in various parts of Western Europe
is promoting itself as the clean form of energy. The main problems,
however, refer to storage. Nuclear reactors in the major
industrialized countries now operating or being built will produce
thousands of cubic metres of high-level waste. The problem of a long-
term repository for high-level wastes remains unsolved. High-level
wastes are stored in stainless steel tanks, but there have been leaks.
A process to solidify waste in glass (vitrification) is being studied,
but the danger is that the glass blocks may disintegrate later on. As
for underground sites, the search for stable geological sites has not
been successful, and we cannot predict future geological movements;
earthquakes mean there are no guarantees. Intermediate and low-level
wastes are buried in shallow grounds in the US and in the UK, but in
the US three sites were closed down several years ago due to
contamination. Low-level waste has also been dumped into the sea.

        This panorama is made infinitely worse by the fact that in
Eastern Europe the dangers multiply with a large number of ageing and
dangerous nuclear reactors. The entrepreneur Edward Goldsmith
estimated in a recent book that there are at least 41 disasters of the
Chernobyl type waiting to happen in Eastern Europe.


Patricia Pitchon: What is the Master's view on these dangers?

A: Our advice is to close down all nuclear fission reactors
without delay. They are a major source of deadly pollution...

... One of the first things [we]... advise is the
closing down of the nuclear reactors and all representation of nuclear
fission as a more efficient way of producing energy. From the
politicians' point of view, there is power, prestige and commercial
gain from nuclear energy. The average person's mind is confused by all
the scientific jargon; his voice is not properly heard in the realms
of power....

Government, today, is about power and the wielding of power, rather than about
service.

PP: Increasingly we are becoming aware of the hazards of toxic
chemicals in the form of sulphur oxides, nitrogen oxides and volatile
hydrogens; the various sources of pollution include industry, motor
vehicles, household waste, etc. What are the dangers here?

A: The interaction of the three types of chemical is serious;
there is a poisonous relationship between them. There is even more
danger to nature than to human beings -- ie the trees, the plants, the
soil. Even 'organic' vegetables are contaminated. The water, the air
we breathe, is contaminated. This is one of the greatest causes of
skin rashes, eczemas and allergies. It is impossible to eat pollutant-
free food.

(Benjamin Creme at this point added that there is a high rate of
eczema in Japan, and much of its origin is due to fish polluted with
mercury and other toxins.)

PP: What about the water itself?

A: Water at the moment contains much aluminium, mercury and
zinc. Aluminium is a very toxic ingredient, and many people also cook
in aluminium. This is a health hazard. It is the source of stomach
diseases, ulcers, fatigue -- a general toxic condition of the body. It
is a miracle that people are not more ill; only their extraordinary
resilience explains it.

PP: According to reports this summer in London, unusual summer heat
combined with ozone from car emissions trapped at ground level to make
the air difficult to breathe, and a recent report on Inner London
schools indicates that one in every five children has asthma. Are
catalytic converters which reduce the level of lead important?

A: Yes. In Japan, where controls are strict, there have been
major improvements. Already many individuals, groups and agencies have
warned and informed governments; a Master need add nothing to this.
Instead of putting more and more cars on the road, public transport
can be made more efficient, more regular and consistent. In time,
Governments will restrict the use of cars to the countryside. A new
technology will lead to a more sophisticated form of public transport
which will alleviate pollution. It will be silent, apparently
motionless and will vibrate very little. Travel fatigue will
disappear. It will be the perfect means of transport of large numbers
of people between countries and between cities.

PP: What timespan are we talking about?

A: Within five to 20 years, more and more sophisticated use
of this technology will transform and beautify the cities. Men have
not envisaged, not even in the imagination of science fiction writers
(because until now there has been no blueprint), how the light of the
sun will become the fuel.

This will provide the energy for all human needs. It will be clean,
without waste, and there will be an inexhaustible supply to every home
in every city in the world. Help is being given to scientists in
Russia and in the United States by our Space Brothers.

PP: Do governments know?

A: Some members in both governments know...

PP: I worry about the economy of countries like Nigeria, where 90 per
cent of its revenue consists of oil exports. What is going to happen
to countries which have been so dependent on oil, when the new solar
fuel becomes available?

Ar: No one will be able to 'corner the market' on this
technology. It will become freely available to all.

PP: What is the... view about the ozone layer in the
stratosphere? Is there an ozone hole over the Antarctic?

(Benjamin Creme...has already said  that it does not exist. It is an
illusion, caused by the fact that light does not stream in a direct line:
imagine that you are in the  dark, and there is a tennis ball. If you shine a
light on it, you get  the impression of a hole behind it, due to the
refraction.)

A: There is, however, a general thinning of the ozone layer
all over the earth.

At the conclusion of the interview he added the following:

 In restoring the planet, salvation is a collective effort.
...Starvation on the planet  will be tackled: mass progress for the starving
millions is the aim,  and on a scale which we have never contemplated. That
achieved, we  will tackle the problems of the environment around us. The top
priority is the complete transformation of our mode of living towards
one that is sustainable.

 We will see the end of the current economy based on unbridled
growth. Men everywhere will be able to eat and live and preserve the
resources of the environment.

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Above is an excerpt of a 1994 Interview with a Master of Wisdom
by Patricia Pitchon, that was published by Share International
<http://www.shareintl.org>

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"Justice will not be served until those who are unaffected
are as outraged as those who are."  Benjamin Franklin

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