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Article #135Re: Is this thing a fractal?
From: Tom Scavo
Date: Thu, 05 Nov 1992 18:10
Date: Thu, 05 Nov 1992 18:10
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In article <1816@spam.ua.oz> ahanysz@spam.ua.oz (Alexander Hanysz) writes:
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>Now I'm going to ask that eternally difficult question: WHY? The
>Mandelbrot set is such a complicated object, how do we know that its
>boundary has topological dimension 1?
A proof was given earlier in this thread by Gerald Edgar.
>More fundamentally, does anyone know a nice _definition_ of topological
>dimension? It's hard to argue when you don't know what the terms mean.
>All I've been told about topological dimension is "a line has dimension
>1, a surface has dimension 2, a volume..." I have yet to see a formal
>definition.
I suspect that others have the same question so here goes:
A set has topological dimension 0 if every point has arbitrarily
small neighborhoods whose boundaries do not intersect the set.
A set S has topological dimension k if each point in S has
arbitrarily small neighborhoods whose boundaries meet S in a
set of dimension k-1 , and k is the least nonnegative integer
for which this holds.
See, for example, Section 14.5 in Devaney's _A First Course in Chaotic
Dynamical Systems_. (Does anyone know of a better reference?)
For instance, the rationals have topological dimension 0 since the
boundary of a disk with irrational radius fails to intersect the
rationals (that is, the sum of a rational and an irrational is
irrational). The irrationals also have topological dimension 0 ,
I believe. Suppose it were true that (1) if A is a subset of X ,
then the t-dim A <= t-dim X ; and (2) for any A in R^n , t-dim A
= n if and only if A contains a nonempty open subset of R^n .
Then by (1) the irrationals have topological dimension no bigger than
1. But by (2) they can not have topological dimension equal to 1
since they contain no open subset. Hence, they have topological
dimension 0 . (Can anyone think of a simpler proof?)
Here's another example. Consider the fractal generated by the
following geometric transformation:
_____
| |
| |
--------------- --> ----- -----
Each leg of this "hat" is one-third the length of the original line
segment. Now the fractal dimension of the resulting image is
log 5 / log 3 , but the topological dimension is 1 since any disk
intersects the curve at a set of discrete points having topological
dimension 0 . (There's a related exercise in Devaney that I can't
solve: Can a fractal that is totally disconnected, with topological
dimension 0 , have a fractal dimension larger than 1 ?)
--
Tom Scavo
scavo@cie.uoregon.edu
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