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Article #432Re: 1-D M-set
From: Jay R. Hill
Date: Sat, 28 Aug 1993 01:39
Date: Sat, 28 Aug 1993 01:39
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In article <1993Aug27.120648.11566@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu>, lmitchel@nyx.cs.du.edu (lloyd mitchell) writes:
|> It seems to me that most of the points on the spike are periodic, but the
|> windows are very small and the periods are very high. I say this based on
|> a hunch from looking at the spike; we've all seen periodic windows but I
|> don't know of any chaotic windows.
The trouble is the chaotic windows are dirty, with periodic specs in them.
|> The M-points (M stands for a mathematician's name that I can't remember),
[ Misiurewicz ? ]
|> where the orbit is periodic after a few iterations (-2, -1.543689...,
|> etc.) are (I think) countable, and are isolated.
There is an infinite number, they are 'everywhere'.
|> It would seem that truly chaotic points may be, also.
I see the periodic zones as ever decreasing in density as I zoom in.
Consider the interval near -1.75 where little Mandelbroties all line up
to 'enter' the cusp. There is a sequence of 'self-similar' cardioid
patterns, each with a period 3 greater. In each pattern, there seems to
be a bisecting pattern. Here is the data:
period center approx size
5 -1.6254137251233038 0.0020294
8 -1.7110794700131522 0.0000864
11 -1.7320062728696561 0.0000109
14 -1.7397176014514633 0.0000026
17 -1.7433378329345028 0.0000009
20 -1.7453196244460596 0.00000038
23 -1.7465233432992069 0.00000020
26 -1.7473107209745575 0.00000012
29 -1.7478549581283644 0.00000007
32 -1.7482474524728249 0.00000005
In between are smaller ones with about ??% of the length. Notice
the length goes down as the square of the distance to -1.75. The
periodic zones are getting less per centage of the length. (Is this
conclusion correct?)
Take a look with fractint at these little Mandelbroties, especially at
the 'tree' above them (in the +i direction). I was surprised to find
a pattern that we like to make with iterated function systems fractals.
The pattern is
_| | \_
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/ \ | / \_
_/ \ | / |
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|> Related question: the Feigenbaum point is at the very tip of the
|> cascade of 1-period, 2-period, 4-, 8-, 16-, etc., components. Does
|> this mean that chaotic points are only found at the tips of such
|> doubling cascades?
|>
|> Kerry Mitchell
There has to be a problem with this, we would have to have each
Feigenbaum point butt up to a cusp of the next. Now each little
Mandelbrotie has at least a 26 degree angle from its spike (equavelent
to -2) to the structure at its top (equavelent to near +i) [greater angle
if we count from the Feigenbaum point (equavelent to -1.401155)] and if you
count the tree like structure I mention above - There is not room to
jam it into the cusp, which approaches zero width. I'd think there
would be a continuous chaotic window. But no matter where you examine
it, there are always small periodic zones. Most interesting.
--Jay 'Not tonight honey, I'm caught on a chaotic filement' Hill
{ hilljr@jupiter.saic.com } begin writeln(3*ln(640320)/sqrt(163):17:15) end.
void main(){double sqrt(), y=1/sqrt(2.), a=.5, m=1,z; int n=0;
for(;m*=2,z=sqrt(1-y*y),y=(1-z)/(1+z),a=a*(1+y)*(1+y)-m*y,n<4;n++);
printf("%17.15lf\n",1/a);}
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