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Started by rich
Wed, 30 Sep 1992 13:24
Robust Spectral Estimates of Gappy Series
Author: rich
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 13:24
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 13:24
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I am trying to generate spectral estimates from time series which have 2 problems: 1) dropouts, i.e. gaps in the time series (perhaps 20% of the values) 2) error spikes (perhaps 2% of the values) The time series is a geophysical one (i.e. reddish spectrum), with perhaps a few small peaks (tides and what-not). The standard window-fft-and-average techniques seem to be inadequate for this - I can't think of a good way to handle the gaps (other than ignoring them by removing them from the series), and the spikes tend to give a lot of "white" energy. Median filtering can get rid of some of the spikiness, but it does bad things to some of the other parts of the signal. Can anyone help me with some good hints or references? Email or post, I will summarize. -- Rich Pawlowicz ----------------- INTERNET: rich@boreas.whoi.edu Woods Hole Oceanographic Institution "Home of the 99 cent squid burger (cheese extra)" --------------------------------------------------------------
Re: Robust Spectral Estimates of Gappy Series
Author: bruce huber
Date: Thu, 01 Oct 1992 13:47
Date: Thu, 01 Oct 1992 13:47
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In article <1992Sep30.132441.10320@netnews.whoi.edu> rich@boreas.whoi.edu writes:
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>I am trying to generate spectral estimates from time series which have
>2 problems:
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> 1) dropouts, i.e. gaps in the time series (perhaps 20% of the values)
> 2) error spikes (perhaps 2% of the values)
>
>The standard window-fft-and-average techniques seem to be inadequate
>for this - I can't think of a good way to handle the gaps (other than
>ignoring them by removing them from the series), and the spikes tend to
>give a lot of "white" energy.
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> .......
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>Can anyone help me with some good hints or references?
>
The Nov/Dec 1990 issue of Computers in Physics, Numerical Recipes
article, discusses Savitzky-Golay smoothing filters. A quick perusal
gives me the impression that this may be a method to consider, though
it may not be the best solution for the gappiness problem.
complete ref: Press, W H and S A Teukolsky, 1990, Computers in Physics 4(6)
pp 669-672
We haven't tried this out yet, so we would appreciate hearing from you
one way or the other.
Bruce Huber
Lamont-Doherty Geological Obs.
Palisades NY 10964
Re: Robust Spectral Estimates of Gappy Series
Author: Pierre Rouleau
Date: Fri, 02 Oct 1992 01:13
Date: Fri, 02 Oct 1992 01:13
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In article <1992Sep30.132441.10320@netnews.whoi.edu> rich@boreas.whoi.edu writes: > The time series is a geophysical one (i.e. reddish spectrum), > with perhaps a few small peaks (tides and what-not)... I suggest you get a hold of Duncan Agnew's Ph.D thesis "Strain Tides at Pinon Flat: Analysis and Interpretation" [UCSD, 1979]. His chapter-4 treats problems similar to yours: gaps, jumps, noisy stretches etc. His lucid treatment is easy to follow and the methods he explicits can be readily implemented. Enjoy ... Pierre R.
Re: Robust Spectral Estimates of Gappy Series
Author: bdeyoung
Date: Tue, 06 Oct 1992 19:04
Date: Tue, 06 Oct 1992 19:04
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To deal with gappy data there are of course no perfect techniques. There is no way to recover information that is not there. Most of the techniques developed to deal with the data holes involve some assumptions about what the spectrum looks like, or using some kind of trial spectrum, and then filling in the holes with some kind of filter. There are one or two classic references that are worth looking at: (1) Thompson, R.O.R.Y, 1971, Spectral estimateion from irregularly spaced data, IEEE Transactions on Geoscience Electronics, GE-9, 107-110. (2) Horne, J.H. and S.L. Baliunas, 1986, A prescription for period analysis of unevenly spaced time series, Astrophysical Journal, 302, 757-763. (3) Sturges, W., 1992, The spectrum of loop current variability from gappy data, Journal of Physical Oceanography, to appear this fall, Oct or Nov 1992. These references should be enough to work with. Brad deYoung hysics Department Memorial University St. John's, Newfoundland A1B 3X7 bdeyoung@kean.ucs.mun.ca (INTERNET) Phone: 709-737-8839 b.deyoung (OMNET) FAX : 709-737-8739
Re: Robust Spectral Estimates of Gappy Series
Author: jerry smith
Date: Tue, 06 Oct 1992 22:03
Date: Tue, 06 Oct 1992 22:03
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An excellent and well documented method for forming power spectra from gappy data is to use covariances formed from the existing portions of data. For example, the alternative methods (and the fortran code to execute them) can be found in the book "Digital Spectral Analysis, with applications" by S.L. Marple (Prentice-Hall, 1987). Covariance-based methods are often referred to as "auto-regressive" models (or AR-spectra; I can't say why this name has stuck). Marple reviews the relative advantages of AR versus "periodogram" (fft) and a few others (e.g. Proni's method). As for the spikes, your on your own. A method which has worked less poorly than others for me in the past is based on using a threshold applied to the difference between each value and the median value in its neighborhood. An unsatisfactory aspect of it is that it has two adjustable (subjective) parameters (the size of the neighborhood, and the threshold). A redeeming feature is that there are enough adjustable parameters to make it reject most of the points which you would have chosen by eye, if you had the time. Good luck. -jerry smith
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