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Archive-name: image-processing/Macintosh
Sci-image-processing-archive-name: MacImageProc
Comp-sys-mac-scitech-archive-name: MacImageProc
Last-modified: 1 Jul 1993
Version: 1.0.5

You must use gopher.  FTP is not supported.  
How to access the sci.image.processing archive at skyking.oce.orst.edu port
70  using Mac TurboGopher.  Also answers to a few questions.  Posted to
sci.image.processing, sci.answers and news.answers every two weeks.

                      Gopher is GREAT.  TRY IT!

Topics:
         About the Macintosh Image Processing FAQ
         I don't use a Mac.  Where is my FAQ?
         Where to find Mac TurboGopher.
         How to set up Mac TurboGopher.
         How to search the sci.image.processing archive.
         How to search for followups to an article.
         What was said at the start of the Lena thread?
         Where can I find NIH Image?
         Is there a PC version of NIH Image?

This digest is in RFC 1153 format.  I have move the informative text
from the preamble into separate messages, since some newsreaders do
not display the preamble (this text) at all.  I also added MacIP to
the front of every subject because NN sorts the subjects alphabetically.

This work is hereby placed in the public domain.  (This notice is required
to avoid copyright under the Berne convention.)  You can do anything you
want with it.  But please don't change it without putting your name on it.

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Date: 1 Jul 1993
From: huff@mcclb0.med.nyu.edu (Edward J. Huff)
Subject: MacIP About the Macintosh Image Processing FAQ

You must use gopher to access the archive, FTP is not supported.

This is the first crosspost to comp.sys.mac.scitech.  My site doesn't 
receive the group (it appeared briefly and vanished), but I believe 
that is a local problem.  I will add information about the scitech 
archive real soon now...

Many thanks to John Stanley <stanley@ruby.OCE.ORST.EDU> for setting up an
archive of sci.image.processing.  Nearly all posts to s.i.p are archived
there and the full text can be searched rapidly using any Gopher client or
WWW client.  This is the preferred method, and the ONLY method described
here.  It should be possible to make a mirror or two of the archive on
other continents (hint).  This ought to give faster response for people
there, although Gopher gives no feedback about where it is going for any 
particular piece of information

To find out more about Gopher, ask in comp.infosystems.gopher or read
"Gopher (comp.infosystems.gopher) Frequently Asked Questions (FAQ)" which
is posted every two weeks to comp.infosystems.gopher, or is available via
anonymous FTP:

rtfm.mit.edu:/pub/usenet/news.answers/gopher-faq

Those without FTP access should send e-mail to mail-server@rtfm.mit.edu
with "send usenet/news.answers/finding-sources" in the body to find out
how to do FTP by e-mail.  Or just "send usenet/news.answers/gopher-faq".

To obtain the latest copy of THIS document,
"send usenet/news.answers/image-processing/Macintosh".

[Pointers to other relevant FAQ files will be added here real soon now.]

If you see this text as a separte message followed by several others from
me, you must be running a newsreader like NN which has an option to split 
digests and present them as if each article were posted separately.

This FAQ is in RFC 1153 "Digest" format.  I understand that some
newsreaders handle that format specially, and that they want to see the
word "Digest" in the subject line to invoke that feature.  (Feedback
from readers requested.  Does anyone have such a newsreader?  I don't.
Do I REALLY have to put a "From" line on every question?)

Mail suggestions or comments to huff@mcclb0.med.nyu.edu (Edward J. Huff).
Preferably, mail a modified copy of the whole file to reflect the changes
you would like to see.  I reserve the right to ignore impolite requests.

I will not be maintaining any FAQ files for PC or Unix.  Anyone else
who would like to do so is encouraged.  It isn't (that) hard.

Also, I plan to include a list of useful search terms, i.e. specific terms
that successfully bring up the desired answers, rather than quoting the
answers themselves.  This should also make obsolete copies of this FAQ a
little less obsolete.  Please send me successful search terms, especially
if they are not entirely obvious.

I am also looking at a Mac WWW client, and someday will get information
added.

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Date: 15 June 1993
From: huff@mcclb0.med.nyu.edu (Edward J. Huff)
Subject: MacIP I don't use a Mac.  Where is my FAQ?

John is planning to write an FAQ for sci.image.processing real soon now 
giving more details about his archive.  Meanwhile, you can find his posting 
by searching for "FAQ".  The search terms "1mukvlINNgnd" or "2103" find the 
original announcement, and will of course also find this posting.  Or try 
"FAQ Stanley Archive", which finds many articles but puts the best matches 
at the front of the list.  See the gopher FAQ for information about how to
obtain a gopher client for your system.

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Date: 8 May 1993
From: huff@mcclb0.med.nyu.edu (Edward J. Huff)
Subject: MacIP Where to find Mac TurboGopher

Short answer:   boombox.micro.umn.edu   (134.84.132.2)
in directory /pub/gopher/Macintosh-TurboGopher

An "archie" search for Macintosh-TurboGopher found 25 copies at anonymous
FTP sites around the world.

Telnet to an archie server:
  archie.ans.net
  archie.unl.edu        129.93.1.14
  archie.sura.net       128.167.254.179
  archie.rutgers.edu    128.6.18.15
  archie.au             139.130.4.6
  archie.funet.fi       128.214.6.100
  archie.ncu.edu.tw     140.115.19.24
  archie.doc.ic.ac.uk   146.169.11.3
  archie.sogang.ac.kr   163.239.1.11

Login as user "archie", and enter "prog Macintosh-TurboGopher".  Conserve
bandwidth, FTP from a nearby site.  

As usual, archie is not a perfect solution, since archivists have a
tendency to change file names and since the file you are looking for
changes with the version.  This search string has been tested on
archie.ans.net and it found 25 sites.  Other reasonable searchs are
TurboGopher.sit.hqx and TurboGopher.hqx, but many of the sites use file
names like turbogopher1.05.sit.hqx.  Is there a better way?

If you cannot telnet or if you use archie a lot, client software is
available on ftp.ans.net:/pub/archie/clients; documentation in
/pub/archie/doc.  Maybe it works better than the telnet version?

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Date: 21 Apr 1993
From: huff@mcclb0.med.nyu.edu (Edward J. Huff)
Subject: MacIP How to set up Mac TurboGopher

(1)  Unbinhex and unstuff it.  Fetch will unbinhex it automatically while
obtaining it from the FTP site.  You need one of the Stuffit programs to
uncompress TurboGopher.  Look in comp.sys.mac.* for more information.  Once
you have TurboGopher, you can use it to get the lastest version.

(2)  Of course, you need MacTCP properly installed in your system folder,
and a TCP connection to the Internet.  Ask you local network manager for
help.

(3)  Double click on TurboGopher.  Choose "File/Another Gopher" and type
skyking.oce.orst.edu into the dialog box, leaving the port set to 70.

A window titled "skyking.oce.orst.edu" will appear.  Double click on
"Information From the Costal Imaging Lab" and another window will open. 
There you will find "Sci.image.processing Newsgroup Archive".  Select the
line and choose "Gopher/Set Bookmark" to create a bookmark to the archive. 
Then, you can quit from TurboGopher, restart it, and the archive will
appear as an item in your "Bookmarks" window.

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Date: 21 Apr 1993
From: huff@mcclb0.med.nyu.edu (Edward J. Huff)
Subject: MacIP How to search the sci.image.processing archive using TurboGopher

The first item in the archive window is "WAIS Indes to Articles".  Further
down is a folder "Raw Articles."  Ignore the folder and use the index. 
Double click on the question mark icon, and a dialog box appears: "Find
documents containing these words:".  Enter FAQ and a window titled FAQ will
appear.  There you can see the complete history of the discussions on when
and if a FAQ posting should appear in sci.image.processing, and also any
other article which happens to contain the word "FAQ".

I suppose that every time this FAQ gets reposted, it is going to be
reentered in the archive.  Maybe there is a way to prevent that.  

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Date: 8 May 1993
From: huff@mcclb0.med.nyu.edu (Edward J. Huff)
Subject: MacIP How to search for followups to an article

You can copy the "article-ID" header string and paste it into the search
box.  This frequently produces more articles than desired, since each
substring delimited by periods etc. is treated as a separate word.

One useful solution to this would be for the original poster to put some
unique single word string in the subject line.  Or someday, the index
software could be modified to treat article-ID strings as single words.

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Date: 21 Apr 1993
From: huff@mcclb0.med.nyu.edu (Edward J. Huff)
Subject: MacIP What was said at the start of the Lena thread?

Well, you fire up gopher, open your s.i.p bookmark, and start a search for
"Lena."  Then some confusion:  which one was first?  Many of the subject
lines are "Re: Re: What to use instead of Lena?" but the first one has just
one "Re:".  There are too many there, you don't want to open them all.  So,
find one of those that mentions copyright by entering "Lena copyright
copyright" as the search terms (guessing that this is a Wais server that
weights the replies, and repeating copyright will give it more weight). 
Apparently, it does, because the first "Lena" article on the list is the
one I was thinking of quoting for this answer:

>I don't know if using the Mona Lisa would be a problem, but using Lena
>*is* a copyright infringment.  See the Optical Engineering Jan 92 editorial
>reponse to a letter from Playboy about the usage of Lena (that is, vol.
>31, no.1).  [For more Playboy-gets-mad-that-other-people-are-using-their-
>images, see Computer Underground Digest's article on Event Horizon's BBS.
>In this case, it wasn't just Playboy saying watch out, the BBS ended up
>paying Playboy like $100,000].
>-- sabina@cns.nyu.edu - sabina@well.sf.ca.us - swolfson@nyx.cs.du.edu --

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Date: 24 May 1993
From: huff@mcclb0.med.nyu.edu (Edward J. Huff)
Subject: MacIP Where can I find NIH Image?

NIH Image is a public domain image processing package for the Macintosh.

The home site for NIH Image is zippy.nimh.nih.gov in directory /pub/image.
Copies exist in many places.  It is VERY hard to use archie to find them.
[Real soon now I will give at least one site for each continent.]
The latest released version is 1.49, and 1.50 is in beta testing.

Subscribing to the new NIH Image mailing list is good way to get in contact
with other Image users and to get questions answered. It was set up by a
group in the Soil Science Department at the University of Minnesota. To
subscribe, send a message containing the line "subscribe nih-image <your
name>" to listserv@soils.umn.edu.  ("Your name" is your actual name,
NOT your e-mail address.  The e-mail address comes from the headers).

The NIH Image manual includes a list of Mac Image processing packages.

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Date: 24 May 1993
From: huff@mcclb0.med.nyu.edu (Edward J. Huff)
Subject: MacIP Is there a PC version of NIH Image?

No.  Image makes extensive use of Macintosh ROM system calls which
do not exist under MS-DOS and are different from MS-Windows calls.
Converting it would be a lot of work.  Volunteers? 

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Edward J. Huff   huff@mcclb0.med.nyu.edu   (212)998-8465
Keck Laboratory for Biomolecular Imaging
NYU Chemistry Deptartment, 31 Washington Place, New York NY 10003