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Article #104Re: universal written language - a protocol for machine translation
From: Boyd Buchin
Date: Mon, 31 May 1999 00:00
Date: Mon, 31 May 1999 00:00
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Marcos wrote: > >But even then there are simple examples where a purely syntactic > >approach has to fail, even between relatively similar languages like > >English and German. In these two languages the most salient examples for > >this are negation and the generic use of articles. A universal language > > I think you're talking here about a "generation" problem. I would like > you to give an example if not. Here are some examples, where a syntactic approach would fail: Peter does _not_ see Mary. = Peter sieht Maria _nicht_. Peter does _not_ see many guests. /= Peter sieht viele G�ste _nicht_. The correct translation would be: Peter sieht _nicht_ viele G�ste. Compare this to the passive of the English sentence: _not_ many guests are seen by Peter. Another example: Er kaufte _kein_ Salz. He did _not_ buy _any_ salt. r und p definieren _kein_ Dreieck. /= r and p do _not_ define _any_ triangle. If the negation formalism of your formal language copies the German or the English formalism, you get wrong results in the other language. A logical approach, on the other hand, is to limited, as logic only knows sentence negation. It thus is far less a generation problem than a question of how to formalise negation. Boyd -- Boyd Buchin - Fakult�t f�r Informatik Universit�t der Bundeswehr - 85577 Neubiberg, Germany http://inf1-www.informatik.unibw-muenchen.de/Boyd
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