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Article #110Re: universal written language - a protocol for machine translation
From: John Woodgate
Date: Tue, 01 Jun 1999 00:00
Date: Tue, 01 Jun 1999 00:00
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<7j05eb$rml@ask.diku.dk>, Klaus Ole Kristiansen <klaus@diku.dk> inimitably wrote: >John Woodgate <jmw@jmwa.demon.co.uk> writes: > >>I see a difference between 'pictographic' and 'symbolic'. What I mean by >>the former is quasi-realistic representation of objects etc., as in a >>strip-cartoon, whereas 'symbolic' implies a stylization, as you see on >>the controls of a car or icons on a computer display. > >That is not the difference. A pictogram means what it shows, a symbol >means something else. A picture of a fish, however stylized, meaning >"fish sold here" is a pictogram. A picture of a fish, however realistic, >meaning "I am a Christian" is a symbol. > >Klaus O K But there is a complete continuum between a photograph - a painting - a cartoon - a hieroglyph - a modern Chinese character. At what degree of stylization does something change from being a pictogram to a symbol. -- Regards, John Woodgate, OOO - Own Opinions Only. Phone +44 (0)1268 747839 Fax +44 (0)1268 777124. Did you hear about the hungry genetic engineer who made a pig of himself?
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X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 15b514,f82743ad9aebddde X-Google-Attributes: gid15b514,public X-Google-Thread: 107100,f82743ad9aebddde X-Google-Attributes: gid107100,public X-Google-Thread: 107fc6,f82743ad9aebddde X-Google-Attributes: gid107fc6,public X-Google-Thread: 100923,f82743ad9aebddde X-Google-Attributes: gid100923,public From: John Woodgate <jmw@jmwa.demon.co.uk> Subject: Re: universal written language - a protocol for machine translation Date: 1999/06/01 Message-ID: <FqjCnWAM86U3Ewn9@jmwa.demon.co.uk> X-Deja-AN: 484563880 X-NNTP-Posting-Host: jmwa.demon.co.uk:158.152.135.100 References: <7ho49v$nmj$1@nnrp1.deja.com> <u+XIi3BEPuS3Ewyn@jmwa.demon.co.uk> <7igr2v$u5v$1@quine.mathcs.duq.edu> <LkKh0gB3vET3EwfS@jmwa.demon.co.uk> <7ik75v$11p$1@quine.mathcs.duq.edu> <LzIRRUA8yjT3EwOk@jmwa.demon.co.uk> <7j05eb$rml@ask.diku.dk> X-Complaints-To: abuse@demon.net X-Trace: news.demon.co.uk 928263254 nnrp-06:7324 NO-IDENT jmwa.demon.co.uk:158.152.135.100 Organization: JMWA Electronics Consultancy MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: sci.lang.translation,comp.ai.nat-lang,cu.ml.linguist-list,alt.language.artificial