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Article #56Re: Admiralty ham,...
From: John Davies
Date: Wed, 29 Oct 1997 00:00
Date: Wed, 29 Oct 1997 00:00
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In article <1997Oct28.153004@dion.belpak.mogilev.by>, Igor Ilyin <ilin@dion.belpak.mogilev.by> writes >Hi, could you kindly explain the meaning (s) of the following "specific" >English collocations which I failed to interpret: >??? >* Admiralty ham >* All my eyes (& Betty Martin) >* Arch tiffy >* Aunt Tom >* Ballroom without a parachute >* Baker flying! >* B-B brain >* I'll come to your party with bells on! >* big Harry >* Big Red with the long Green Stem >* Black Russian > I think you mean "colloquialism", not "collocation" Admiralty ham = any tinned meat. Naval slang, no longer in use. All my eye (*not* eyes) and Betty Martin = all rubbish, nonsense. (A phrase of uncertain origin, according to Brewer's Dictionary of phrase and fable) Arch tiffy: "tiffy" is naval slang for "Artificer", a non-commissioned rank concerned with the repair and maintenance of the engines and other technical systems aboard ship. I have never heard or seen the phrase "Arch tiffy", but it might conceivably mean the Chief ERA (Engine Room Artificer) "Black Russian": in a naval context, probably refers to Balkan Sobranie cigarettes, which are (were?) made with black paper. Baker flying = this could refer to the international signal flag B, a plain red flag with a triangular piece cut out of the edge). In the phonetic alphabet in use up to the end of world war 2, "Baker" stood for the letter B. A ship flying flag B is taking on or discharging explosives or oil fuel. BB brain: according to Partridge's dictionary of slang and colloquial English, "BB" (from "British Blue") used to mean a bluejacket, ie a sailor of the Royal Navy. He dates it to early 20th century, but it was not in use in the RN in the 1950s. The only other meaning of BB that I know of is Ball Bearing, but Partridge gives other slang meanings. I don't know what the other phrases mean, but if you could post the sentences in which they occur, and tell us something of the context, I or others may be able to help further. It sounds as though the text is about the Royal Navy in the early years of this century -- am I right? -- John Davies (john@redwoods.demon.co.uk)
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