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Article #113Re: what has happened to "ascribe" ?
From: Roger Greenwald
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 18:41
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 18:41
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In article <23912@castle.ed.ac.uk> cam@castle.ed.ac.uk (Chris Malcolm) writes: >In article <1992Jul17.174706.3008@alf.uib.no> hlirg@alf.uib.no (Roger Greenwald) writes: > >>I can think of nothing so UNhelpful as >>putting red marks all over an essay, together with abbreviations >>referring to a book of rules. > >This is exactly what happened to my essays at school. I found it a >very efficient way of teaching me the rules. The process is: explain >rules, show how rules can be found in the book, give exercise >involving use of rules, mark mistakes with refs to book, repeat until >rules mastered. Why is this unhelpful? > You found it helpful because you were equipped by education and inclined by temperament to learn this way. And I have taught myself much of a foreign language from a book, but I already had a firm grasp of grammar. The method is usually unhelpful for several reasons. The first is that the student's main motivation is to convey his thought, and he can usually not tell from the notation of error why his sentence fails to convey his thought (indeed, sometimes it does not fail to convey it). The sentence sounds right to him, which is why he wrote it that way in the first place. Second: When he goes to the book, there is often not enough information to make the problem intelligible; the examples are not like his sentence; he has written the sentence his way for a reason not addressed in the book, etc. Third, even when there is enough info in the book, the student may not have a firm enough grasp of the concepts and the terms to understand what is said there and see how it applies to his own sentence. I will grant that it can be helpful, if one _explains_ the problem with the sentence as written, to refer the student to the book as well. Note, however, that not all problems with writing are of the simple grammatical sort covered in handbooks. Sentences may be entirely correct, but the emphasis may fall on the wrong word, given the intended meaning (e.g. in a contrast); or a logical connective may be ambiguous, etc. These are problems related to specific contexts and the train of thought in those contexts. Teachers who put lots of refereces to handbooks in the margin often (not always) tend to neglect to put other kinds of comments there. So it would have been more precise to say it is unhelpful _merely_ to put references to handbooks in the margin. But for the reasons stated above, such references can also be unhelpful even when there _are_ other comments. It depends a lot on the particular student. -- Roger Greenwald Greenwald@hf.uib.no (address valid only until 10 August 1992)
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Newsgroups: sci.lang Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!sparky!uunet!mcsun!sunic!ugle.unit.no!alf.uib.no!hlirg From: hlirg@alf.uib.no (Roger Greenwald) Subject: Re: what has happened to "ascribe" ? Message-ID: <1992Jul21.184124.20946@alf.uib.no> Organization: University of Bergen, Norway References: <1992Jul17.103308.5091@cc.ic.ac.uk> <1992Jul17.174706.3008@alf.uib.no> <23912@castle.ed.ac.uk> Date: Tue, 21 Jul 92 18:41:24 GMT Lines: 50